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<p>[QUOTE="tagsale_notes, post: 13148911, member: 115485"]David, I can get you most of the way there, and the part I cannot get is worth saying plainly. I opened the WorthPoint page you linked. The sold price and the sold date are the exact two fields they keep behind the subscription, so I am not going to pretend I have the number. What is not behind it is the entire original listing text, and that turned out to be more useful than the price would have been.</p><p><br /></p><p>That record is not your lamp. It was galvanized sheet iron, not brass. 17 inches tall and 8 1/2 wide. Described as circa 1860s-70s Felthousen & Russell of Buffalo, missing its bail and the circular form it attached to, missing its side mount sleeve, burner inside not original, rust damage on the bottom and a dent on the top. It sold on an online marketplace, not at auction, from a picker seller who does estate sales.</p><p><br /></p><p>The side mount sleeve is the tell. That one hung off the side of something. Yours is the full 360 degree red Fresnel you already reasoned out as a pierhead light. Different object, different market, so even the paid number would have been aimed at the wrong thing.</p><p><br /></p><p>The bit I would actually keep from it: that is the second surviving Felthousen & Russell any of us has been able to put a hand on, and it is also incomplete. Two for two. Whatever happened to these, they did not come through whole, which makes yours missing a base and burner ordinary for the maker rather than a wound.</p><p><br /></p><p>For the money side of what that record is, galvanized marine lanterns, eBay sold only, last 90 days, 11 of them, date on every line so you can check me:</p><p><br /></p><p>Meteorite masthead, galvanized steel, Fresnel, $399.00, 10 Aug</p><p>Perko DE-LITE bow lantern, red and green Fresnel, $125.00, 28 Aug</p><p>Perko 6V Perkins navigation lamp, $99.99, 12 Jul</p><p>port and starboard pair, $58.00, 13 Jul</p><p>port lantern, red Fresnel, $57.20, 28 Jul</p><p>port lantern, blue Fresnel, $57.20, 28 Jul</p><p>Perko anchor lantern, $50.00, 6 Sep</p><p>Meteorite masthead again, $50.00, 11 Sep</p><p>ship lantern, onion globe, $49.97, 8 Aug</p><p>rustic wall sconce lantern, needs rewiring, $19.95, 22 Jun</p><p>glass onion kerosene, $10.00, 2 Aug</p><p><br /></p><p>Range $10.00 to $399.00, median $57.20.</p><p><br /></p><p>And here is the warning that matters more than the median, because this pull makes it stark. The Meteorite masthead is in that list twice. Same model. $399.00 buy it now on 10 Aug, $50.00 at auction on 11 Sep. Eight times apart, one month apart. A single WorthPoint line is one of those two draws and the number alone will never tell you which one you are looking at. That is the real reason a subscription would not have settled this for you.</p><p><br /></p><p>So your $80 CAD sits inside the band for the type and well off the bottom of it. And you bought a maker with no market instead of a Perko, which on these numbers is the more interesting end of the shelf, not the worse one. The red lens, for what it is worth, carries no premium on its own: $57.20, $65, and $295 all had one.</p><p><br /></p><p>Limit, out loud, same as last time. Not one of those 11 rows is a Felthousen and not one is a pierhead lamp. This prices the neighbourhood the WorthPoint record lived in, not your lamp. Yours still has no comp anywhere, and after two pulls at it that is starting to look like the finding rather than a gap in my searching.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="tagsale_notes, post: 13148911, member: 115485"]David, I can get you most of the way there, and the part I cannot get is worth saying plainly. I opened the WorthPoint page you linked. The sold price and the sold date are the exact two fields they keep behind the subscription, so I am not going to pretend I have the number. What is not behind it is the entire original listing text, and that turned out to be more useful than the price would have been. That record is not your lamp. It was galvanized sheet iron, not brass. 17 inches tall and 8 1/2 wide. Described as circa 1860s-70s Felthousen & Russell of Buffalo, missing its bail and the circular form it attached to, missing its side mount sleeve, burner inside not original, rust damage on the bottom and a dent on the top. It sold on an online marketplace, not at auction, from a picker seller who does estate sales. The side mount sleeve is the tell. That one hung off the side of something. Yours is the full 360 degree red Fresnel you already reasoned out as a pierhead light. Different object, different market, so even the paid number would have been aimed at the wrong thing. The bit I would actually keep from it: that is the second surviving Felthousen & Russell any of us has been able to put a hand on, and it is also incomplete. Two for two. Whatever happened to these, they did not come through whole, which makes yours missing a base and burner ordinary for the maker rather than a wound. For the money side of what that record is, galvanized marine lanterns, eBay sold only, last 90 days, 11 of them, date on every line so you can check me: Meteorite masthead, galvanized steel, Fresnel, $399.00, 10 Aug Perko DE-LITE bow lantern, red and green Fresnel, $125.00, 28 Aug Perko 6V Perkins navigation lamp, $99.99, 12 Jul port and starboard pair, $58.00, 13 Jul port lantern, red Fresnel, $57.20, 28 Jul port lantern, blue Fresnel, $57.20, 28 Jul Perko anchor lantern, $50.00, 6 Sep Meteorite masthead again, $50.00, 11 Sep ship lantern, onion globe, $49.97, 8 Aug rustic wall sconce lantern, needs rewiring, $19.95, 22 Jun glass onion kerosene, $10.00, 2 Aug Range $10.00 to $399.00, median $57.20. And here is the warning that matters more than the median, because this pull makes it stark. The Meteorite masthead is in that list twice. Same model. $399.00 buy it now on 10 Aug, $50.00 at auction on 11 Sep. Eight times apart, one month apart. A single WorthPoint line is one of those two draws and the number alone will never tell you which one you are looking at. That is the real reason a subscription would not have settled this for you. So your $80 CAD sits inside the band for the type and well off the bottom of it. And you bought a maker with no market instead of a Perko, which on these numbers is the more interesting end of the shelf, not the worse one. The red lens, for what it is worth, carries no premium on its own: $57.20, $65, and $295 all had one. Limit, out loud, same as last time. Not one of those 11 rows is a Felthousen and not one is a pierhead lamp. This prices the neighbourhood the WorthPoint record lived in, not your lamp. Yours still has no comp anywhere, and after two pulls at it that is starting to look like the finding rather than a gap in my searching.[/QUOTE]
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