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Hi Gang, I figured I would try my first posting here and was hoping I could get some help identifying and getting an idea of value, please. Purchased this at a sale and believe it to be a George II Walnut Needlepoint and Brass Two Candle Girandole (circa mid-late 1770s - 1780s), at least the only one I could find online that matched detailed it as such. Anyone have any suggestions / ideas? I hope I posted this correctly... Thanks in Advance!

 

I know nothing of these.....but..

seeing how the one in the auction , which is almost a mirror image of yours...but from what I can see...in much less fine detail....it begs the question , were these items reproduced at some later date than the 1740's....?????

that , plus ...2013 auction prices have fluctuated in the past 10 years..

 

Id bet there were mirrors in there originally . How smart is it to have fire next to fabric?

 

No idea. But Im sure this is going to be a interesting thread.

 

I can't add much as I don't know the item but I do know that mid/late 1770s -1780s would be George III.

Good job finding a similar pair!

 

The needlepoint looks different, not as exquisitely sewn, than in the two examples shown. It may not be rougher, but it certainly looks it.

 

Hum... Here's something similar from Christie's. 20th century with older needlework.

Debora

 

Awesome, Thanks Debora... I forwarded a request to Bonhams asking for consideration to quote a value and consign it for me and they turned it down. Oh well...

 

I wonder if Bonham's got some push back or had second thoughts. I did find what looks very similar to their pieces only with mirrors that this auction house places at c. 1900.

https://www.bukowskis.com/en/lots/1302111-spegellampetter-ett-par-engelsk-stil-ca-1900

 

Wow! Now that's interesting..... Kinda like a mystery with several different possibilities. I guess I better take it somewhere and get it appraised (officially) by someone who knows these things. I live in Northern VA, can anyone suggest a good appraiser or appraisal company? Thanks!

 

nice searching @say_it_slowly
nice call @johnnycb09

 

I also live in NoVa though a bit on the outskirts. I can't say that I know where to get an appraisal locally but you might continue emailing some of the big auction houses to see what they say. Over the years I've volunteered as some 18th C sites with some knowledgeable folks there (such as Mount Vernon) but I no longer am volunteering anyplace like that and don't know if they could suggest something. You might ask.

I have a friend that used Oakridge in Ashburn when she was downsizing. I know they went to her house and reviewed her items. I think she thought they knew what they were talking about and she was happy enough with the auction results of the things she sold as far as I know. I don't think she had much 18th C stuff though. Not really a recommendation but they are local.

Spring might know @springfld.arsenal

 

Many Thanks for the suggestion!

 

No idea. looks like candle stand mirror.

 

OP, did you check the nails used in the frame? If they are all wire nails, your frame most likely dates from 1890+. It's difficult to see the nails since your pictures are quite small.

How many stitches per inch on the needlepoint? Any petit point? Wool, cotton, or synthetic fabric?

Your piece could be a late 19th century "reproduction".

P.S. textile fading depends on many factors such as light exposure, pigment, etc... Yours could have even been artificially faded. You should look at the rear of the needlepoint to see the original color.

 

Excellent suggestions, Techbiker... I will take a look and post a couple closeups. MANY THANKS!

 

Glad I could help! Here is a good guide to old nails:

nail-chronology.pdf (npshistory.com)

Do you have pictures of any of the nail heads? That hanger might be newer vintage than the rest of the piece.

 

the metal does look like it sits, where something else once was........