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<p>[QUOTE="komokwa, post: 9500386, member: 301"]here's what AJ said to me.......</p><p>about mine..</p><p><br /></p><p>Wait until she sees yours..</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>komokwa said: <a href="https://www.antiquers.com/threads/its-that-time-again-i-havent-seen-enuf-blades-lately.75759/goto/post?id=7204680#post-7204680" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.antiquers.com/threads/its-that-time-again-i-havent-seen-enuf-blades-lately.75759/goto/post?id=7204680#post-7204680">↑</a></p><p>the other from a friend, who in trying to be helpful.....cleaned it .....kinda !</p><p><br /></p><p>I'll let <a href="https://www.antiquers.com/members/2844/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.antiquers.com/members/2844/">@Any Jewelry</a> explain why he did me no favour ........<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie55" alt=":inpain:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>File marks!<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie14" alt=":arghh:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie55" alt=":inpain:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie67" alt=":nurse:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Taking a file to a keris is like taking a file to an elderly relative.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/eek.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":eek:" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie22" alt=":bigtears:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie39" alt=":dead:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><a href="https://www.antiquers.com/threads/its-that-time-again-i-havent-seen-enuf-blades-lately.75759/goto/post?id=7204680#post-7204680" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.antiquers.com/threads/its-that-time-again-i-havent-seen-enuf-blades-lately.75759/goto/post?id=7204680#post-7204680">↑</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>interesting that the handles are carved very similarly ...!</p><p>Both are Solo/Surakarta style Nunggak Semi hilts, a standard model, originally developed in Demak to make a political statement.</p><p><br /></p><p>The background, rather Shakespearean:</p><p>After the grand old East Javanese Medieval Majapahit empire fell apart, there were only two legitimate heirs, the royal houses of Demak and Cakraningrat/Madura (my lot).</p><p>However, the Central Javanese house of Mataram II, who used the name of an older, non-related dynasty in an effort to improve their status, wanted to rule over the former Majapahit lands.</p><p>The house of Demak, as a subtle sign that they were the true heirs (together with the Cakraningrat of Madura), had a hilt designed as a symbol of their position. It was the Nunggak Semi, which means sprouting tree trunk.</p><p>The sprouting tree trunk symbolism means that the house of Demak sprouted from the tree trunk of Majapahit.</p><p>You see an old, archaic-looking mask at the bottom, that is Majapahit, steeped in history. Above it is a more detailed 'younger' mask, that is Demak. Together they are one, and they form one person (hilt) who bends his head in reverence for the higher power.</p><p>The Nunggak Semi hilt became hugely popular across Java and West Madura, and two styles evolved. One is your hilt type, the Solo style, used throughout Java and West Madura. The other is the smaller and straighter Djokja hilt, used in the territory of Yogyakarta.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="komokwa, post: 9500386, member: 301"]here's what AJ said to me....... about mine.. Wait until she sees yours.. komokwa said: [URL='https://www.antiquers.com/threads/its-that-time-again-i-havent-seen-enuf-blades-lately.75759/goto/post?id=7204680#post-7204680']↑[/URL] the other from a friend, who in trying to be helpful.....cleaned it .....kinda ! I'll let [URL='https://www.antiquers.com/members/2844/']@Any Jewelry[/URL] explain why he did me no favour ........:inpain: File marks!:arghh::inpain::nurse: Taking a file to a keris is like taking a file to an elderly relative.:eek::bigtears::dead: [URL='https://www.antiquers.com/threads/its-that-time-again-i-havent-seen-enuf-blades-lately.75759/goto/post?id=7204680#post-7204680']↑[/URL] interesting that the handles are carved very similarly ...! Both are Solo/Surakarta style Nunggak Semi hilts, a standard model, originally developed in Demak to make a political statement. The background, rather Shakespearean: After the grand old East Javanese Medieval Majapahit empire fell apart, there were only two legitimate heirs, the royal houses of Demak and Cakraningrat/Madura (my lot). However, the Central Javanese house of Mataram II, who used the name of an older, non-related dynasty in an effort to improve their status, wanted to rule over the former Majapahit lands. The house of Demak, as a subtle sign that they were the true heirs (together with the Cakraningrat of Madura), had a hilt designed as a symbol of their position. It was the Nunggak Semi, which means sprouting tree trunk. The sprouting tree trunk symbolism means that the house of Demak sprouted from the tree trunk of Majapahit. You see an old, archaic-looking mask at the bottom, that is Majapahit, steeped in history. Above it is a more detailed 'younger' mask, that is Demak. Together they are one, and they form one person (hilt) who bends his head in reverence for the higher power. The Nunggak Semi hilt became hugely popular across Java and West Madura, and two styles evolved. One is your hilt type, the Solo style, used throughout Java and West Madura. The other is the smaller and straighter Djokja hilt, used in the territory of Yogyakarta.[/QUOTE]
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