Featured No luck identifying this antique folding fan... help!

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  1. SDHPDX

    SDHPDX New Member

    Hi everyone,

    I am new here, and stumbled upon this great forum. Thank you for your insight! I have a pretty good and broad knowledge of antiques and am a skilled researcher, so typically I don't have issues finding things. This one is giving me a run for my money!

    This belonged to my great, great aunt, who traveled the world in the late 19th century and early 1900s. I have a number of fans, and this one I think is French, in that it is so pastoral, but I am coming up empty finding any that look like this or are similar in style. I'd love some thoughts as to what it is. Thank you in advance! It's a lovely piece! 2020-03-16 16.19.04 2.jpg 2020-03-16 16.19.04 2.jpg 2020-03-16 16.19.04 2.jpg
     
  2. judy

    judy Well-Known Member

    Hi SDHPDX! (hope I got all those letters correct:cat:)

    Welcome to Antiquers..............

    We have a member who will be able to tell you something about it............

    I'll tag her.

    @Any Jewelry
     
  3. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Lovely graphics. Late 1800'ish aesthetic design!
     
  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    A very charming fan, SDH. Agree with Bakers, late 19th century.
    Would love to see some details. And could we see the back please?
    Did your great-great aunt leave notes with them?
    The costume of the woman on the left, in the detail below, looks South German or Austrian rather than French, but I could be wrong. The bold cartouches also have a more German look.

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  5. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Or Northern Italian these days.
     
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  6. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I know nothing about fans.
    However, that sure looks like a border collie in the middle of the fan.

    The Border Collie is a herding breed of dog bred to herd livestock, mainly sheep. They originated at the Angelo-Scottish border, and the breed was developed in the wet, cold, rough hilly terrain of Ireland, Scotland and England.
    https://www.bellaclanbordercollies.com/about-border-collies.html

    Based on that, I would guess, English or Scottish. But again, I know nothing of fans.
     
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  7. i need help

    i need help Well-Known Member

    Is this just a scrolling vine, or is something written here?

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  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I think it is a breed with an upward curled tail. That would include several related breeds, mostly German and Dutch I think. But not the border collies.

    It would have to be a breed that was already around at the time the fan was painted.
     
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  9. SDHPDX

    SDHPDX New Member

    Your responses brought a smile to my face, which is so needed right now! Here are two more images. Thank you, everyone, for the warm and helpful welcome!

    The squiggle on the vine is just more vine with teeny buds. Good thought, though.

    And, not a hint at all from an family clues. I have lots and lots of things and have gradually been selling things I don't need. (Way too much stuff was kept by generations and there is no real rhyme or reason other than that things were kept in boxes for decades and kept just to keep.) 2020-03-16 16.18.38.jpg 2020-03-16 16.19.11.jpg
     
  10. SDHPDX

    SDHPDX New Member

    Alsatian perhaps? I posted pictures below. :)
     
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  11. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Border Collies have a slight curve to their tails. When in action their tails curl even more.

    Basically a German Shepherd. That dog doesn't look like a shepherd to me.

    Again not an expert. Just my opinion.
    Border Collies
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  12. flipper

    flipper Well-Known Member

    Flipper agrees that it is a good possibility.

    But, she is also leaning towards the black and white Alpine Shepard, which seems to have the same taste in coats.
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  13. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

  14. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    Did you try an image search without the tape measure? I enjoyed looking at all the beautiful fans that came up, so thanks for posting this question.
     
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  15. Gus Tuason

    Gus Tuason Active Member

    What"s the printing on ribs 3,4,5,&6 from the right? Or maybe it's a picture? Or are those ribs replacements?
     
  16. SDHPDX

    SDHPDX New Member

    If you are able to zoom in on your screen, you can see it the patterns that are printed on. They are all original. I am having such a hard time nailing this down! I love all the replies! Stay healthy!
     
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