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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;benbenny007, post: 269716, member: 4194&quot;]Recently acquired these but have difficulties placing them. Are they Japanese or Chinese?&nbsp; It shows how they used to make porcelain.&nbsp; First one they are digging for the ingredients and the second one shows the kilns.&nbsp; It looks like they have some aged to them. It&#039;s painted on laid paper probably 1700s early 1800s (don&#039;t know if the artwork it self is also that old or later made)</p><p><br /></p><p>Other question. Should I take them out of he frame or keep the sealing intact ?&nbsp; It looks to me like the mat is covering a big part like the trees and roof of the kiln.&nbsp; Seems therefore likely that there could be a signature hidden beneath the mat.&nbsp; But would they cover a signature with mat on a artwork?&nbsp;&nbsp; Any suggestions?</p><p><br /></p><p>Any info/input is welcome.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]85087[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]85091[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]85090[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]85092[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]85093[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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