Featured Old Oil Painting on Wood Panel

Discussion in 'Art' started by Lithographer, Dec 30, 2019.

  1. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    At least you can go through that list one at a time matching up styles - plus, you have provenance now, and that's a good thing!
     
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  3. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    My next move would be to try and match up subject matter, medium and SIZE.

    Usually there will be other works of the same size known.

    Good luck, perseverance is your friend now - this might take some time but eventually you will identify the work. It is obviously a quality piece.
     
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  4. Lithographer

    Lithographer Well-Known Member

    Title: 50262, 1891-11-20, WALLIS (Henry), art dealer †
    Date: 1891
    Place: London
    Date from: 1891-11-20
    Date to: 1891-11-21
    Lugt number: 50262
    Lugt number sorted: 50262
    Provenance: WALLIS (Henry), art dealer †
    Contents: 2nd part.: Paintings 281
    Number of objects: 281
    Auction house: Christie
    Pages in catalog: 32
    Copies: Great Britain: BLL, CL prices names, VAL prices names
    The Netherlands: RKDH
    USA: FLNY, MMNY
    Scanned copy: RKDH
    Microfiche copy: O-2503 - fiche : 2208-2209
    DOI: 10.1163/2210-7886_ASC-50262
     
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  5. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Here's a group dedicated to Pre-Raphaelite scholarship. Perhaps you could contact them and see if they could help. I suspect that someone with expertise in the field would be able to identify artist even if minor member of movement.

    https://preraphaelitesonline.org

    Debora
     
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  6. Lithographer

    Lithographer Well-Known Member

    The National Gallery of Art obtained a copy of the auction catalog for me, I am going to go through it and post a list of possible artists. Many of the paintings are easy to eliminate because of the titles. Hopefully we can figure it out.
     
  7. Lithographer

    Lithographer Well-Known Member

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    IMG_0855.jpg I went through the auction catalog, I found a painting titled "A Lady of Old Augsburg" by Max Von Schmaedel. Above is an example of his work and my painting.
     
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  8. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    There are many similarities, aren't there? Do you know if it's on wood? Difficult to compare without having both in front of one. My gut says no but I can't support that in any way. Let's see what others think.

    Debora
     
  9. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Here's another work of his (Max Von Schmaedel) and it could be the same model. What do you think?

    Debora

    max-von-schmaedel-a-bust-length-portrait-of-a-girl-in-period-dress.jpg
     
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  10. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Here's the details of the above. Note it's on panel. You'll want to compare size to size of yours.

    Artist:
    Max von Schmaedel
    (German, born 1856)
    Title:
    A bust length portrait of a girl in period dress
    Medium:
    Oil on Panel
    Size:
    20.3 x 15.2 cm. (8 x 6 in.)

    Debora
     
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  14. Lithographer

    Lithographer Well-Known Member

    It just occurred to me that the other number burned into the back of my panel, W/7698 probably is a Henry Wallis gallery inventory number. I am wondering if I might be able to find gallery records or an inventory of his estate. Does anyone have any experience doing that, for instance through a genealogy database like Ancestry?
     
  15. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Ancestry will not help you. I just looked for estate records for Henry. The only record available is the notation in National Probate List that his estate was probated in early February 1917, with administration granted to The Public Trustee. Value was listed at 15900+ pounds sterling but there is no breakdown.
     
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  16. Lithographer

    Lithographer Well-Known Member

    The art dealer Henry Wallis died Brixton, London 15-Oct-1890 Born 1805
    I think your record is for the artist, Henry Wallis, died 1916.
     
  17. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I'm not sure why I picked up the wrong date and therefore the wrong Henry. But Ancestry will still not be of any help in identifying the contents of an estate in England in that time frame.
     
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  18. bowguy

    bowguy Member

    Look at the eyes. An almost exact match.
     

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  19. BrianIRL

    BrianIRL New Member

    Did you ever find out the date and information for the christies stock number 912E
     
  20. BrianIRL

    BrianIRL New Member

    what date was the christies sale for stock number 912E
     
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