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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;afantiques, post: 98858, member: 25&quot;]THe first one is Swiss, C. 1900 as you suspect and probably has a barred cylinder escapement movement, you&#039;d have to open the inner back for me to see. You could buy a key star for a couple of quid, this has about 6 key sizes and covers most key wound watches.</p><p><br /></p><p>The Waterbury might be a Waterbury duplex, I&#039;d have to see the movement. The back opens with a knife blade, there should be a tiny lip top right as you look at the back, . try to insert a blunt knife blade and instead of levering it slide the blade round a little, this gradual action is less violent than a prising action.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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