Featured Pair of Carved African Busts

Discussion in 'Art' started by Potteryplease, Jul 31, 2026 at 4:45 PM.

  1. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    I found these at an estate sale this morning and at $12 each thought they were super well-executed.

    Maybe Kenyan?

    They are 11.25" / 28.5 cm tall, one slightly taller than the other. The wood is dense and heavy. Some slight cracking, esp on the one.

    I read the date 11--11--57 on the bottom of one. (The other is unmarked.)

    I can't read the signature.

    Any thoughts and help will once again be appreciated.

    @Boland

    Thank you, thank you, thank you!

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  2. Marote

    Marote Well-Known Member

  3. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    Thanks @Marote! The narrative on that WorthPoint one is totally absurd!
     
  4. Marote

    Marote Well-Known Member

    "NOW WHETHER ZINGA JEAN IS THE ARTIST OR THE SUBJECT WILL PROBABLY ALWAYS BE A MYSTERY!"
    Yup, I'm also not sure if Zinga is the artist who made this, or if it's Zinga and his mother...
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  5. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    G**, that's embarrassing. For him.

    Debora
     
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  6. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    At the risk of 'trusting' AI......

    ...the name Zinga Jean may not be a specific person's given name...

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  7. Marote

    Marote Well-Known Member

    I was hoping the text on the Etsy piece would be helpful with finding out the origin, but no luck so far
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    I'm reading
    ZINGA NTONI JEAN
    AVE JANDOA NECRI VUZI
    MATAUI

    I'm not sure about the J in Jandoa, as it's different from the one in Jean. And not sure if it's NECRI or NECR 1 or something completely different...
     
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  8. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    Thanks again for the tireless help Marote! You're the best.
     
  9. Marote

    Marote Well-Known Member

  10. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Isn't the second line Ave. d'And... ?

    Debora
     
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  11. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the tireless help Debora! Here and always. You're the best!
     
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  12. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    Not sure if this helps at all.

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  13. Marote

    Marote Well-Known Member

    Hey! I thought I was the best!?!? :wideyed:
     
  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  15. Marote

    Marote Well-Known Member

    Av. Sandoa
    in Lubumbashi, Democratic Republic of the Congo?
     
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  16. Marote

    Marote Well-Known Member

    The last line looks like Matadi. That's also in Congo, but if that's correct, then it won't be Av. Sandoa in Lubumbashi, as there's 2429km between those 2 locations
     
  17. Marote

    Marote Well-Known Member

    There's a Sandoa footway in Matadi!
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  18. Marote

    Marote Well-Known Member

    Further down the rabbit hole ...

    Matadi has Portuguese and French influences, and that explains the name N'Toni Jean.
    'Jean' is obvious.
    And N'Toni:
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  19. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Isn't that interesting?

    Debora
     
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  20. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Aren't rabbit holes fun - when they aren't exasperating? "Zinga" occurs as a surname most often in Angola and the Congo region. The colonial Belgian Congo, which is now the DRC, would also explain a French language influence with "Jean". I was going to suggest that the second line was a street address, with the last line being a village or city, but it looks like Marote has successfully deciphered that.
     
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