Featured Pair of Neoclassical Urns, Marked

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by ascot, Nov 8, 2023.

  1. ascot

    ascot Well-Known Member

    Picked these up today. I'm not even sure what they're made from - quite heavy, so I think maybe iron or terracotta that's been painted black? One has a male figure on the front within a snowflake-like raised cartouche; his female "companion"? is on the other side. The other has the female within the cartouche on the front and the male on the back.

    Both pieces are marked - looks like WS&S - not sure about the ampersand. One has 298 beneath and the other, 299.

    I'm hoping the marks are a clue.

    Thanks, Janice

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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    They appear to be missing lids.

    Debora
     
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  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    and appear to be newish..
     
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  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Well, the mark is Wilhelm Schiller & Sohn. 1850ish to eve of World War I. Specialized in terracotta.

    Debora
     
  5. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

  6. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    autocorrect........ Jewish !!:hilarious::hilarious:
     
  7. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  8. ascot

    ascot Well-Known Member

    Wow-thank you! Any idea who the male and female profiles are?
     
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  9. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    They could just be generic classical profiles. @Bronwen will know.

    Debora
     
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  10. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Bronwen is better at mythology than history. The form & decoration of these are so eclectic, I have to think the twosome are fantasy figures. I like the idea of Don Quixote & Dulcinea, but doubt that was in anyone's mind when they were made.
     
  11. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    I wonder if that original finish is under that black paint?
     
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  12. ascot

    ascot Well-Known Member

    Hadn’t thought of that. But I don’t have the slightest idea of how to remove the paint without damaging what may or may not be underneath.
     
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  13. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    the flaking on the interior would support that....& causing me to think these were newer..:wacky:
     
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  14. ascot

    ascot Well-Known Member

    Actually, I think these are early production. More research says the lower numbers and the lack of a raised cartouche around the initials are early wares. That said, if I were to try to remove the black paint, how would I do it?
     
  15. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    carefully.....if at all !
    I can't see it coming off , willingly !:inpain:
     
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  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Greg would have known.:(
    Maybe one of the potties knows.
    Autocorrect knows who's using it.:shifty::playful:
     
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  17. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    The figures strike me as being roman
     
  18. KylieS

    KylieS Well-Known Member

    Just to say it's possible these are meant to be black - by no means an expert in this type of pottery but I wouldn't try to remove the paint without asking an expert first. I have seen black / dark brown wares of this age in France, they're possibly of the time.
     
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  19. baltojoe75

    baltojoe75 Well-Known Member

    That's black paint. Before you go trying to remove the paint, you should check if it is lead based.
     
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  20. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    That looks like an awfully professional paint job if it's after market.
    I vote for original finish.
     
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