Featured Please help on ID old tapestry

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  1. La Baey

    La Baey New Member

    20181107_111349.png 20181107_125539.png 20181107_125711.png Hi everybody,

    I've got a nice old tapestry with madonna and child and 2 angels.

    Can someone help me from what century it is? Or help me with other info.

    I live in Belgium, so I think the tapestry could be European.

    Thanks in advance!

    Bart
     
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2018
  2. judy

    judy Well-Known Member

    Welcome to Antiquers Bart!

    You will need better photos plus choose Full Image when posting.

    You might be able to edit and do so with present pictures.
     
  3. La Baey

    La Baey New Member

    Thanks
     
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  4. judy

    judy Well-Known Member

  5. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Yes, definitely need/WANT better pictures. Would love to see the full piece (including frame, front and back).
     
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  6. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Lovely. You can take it out of the frame and clean the glass,and grab a few pics of it .It wont hurt anything or reduce the value.
     
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  7. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    I would hold off taking this one out off the frame. I think this could be as old as late 18th, early 19th century.

    Which means it could be very very fragile.

    But that's just a wild guess from pictures where you can't tell enough to make such a guess.
     
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  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Welcome from just north of the border, Bart.

    Your lovely folk art Madonna could be parchment instead of tapestry. It looks embossed, with glass beads or cabochons added to it. In either case I would be very careful if you decide to take it out of the frame. Personally, I wouldn't take the risk.

    I'm with Jivvy on the possible age, I wouldn't be surprised if it was 18th century, maybe even older.
    I think it could be Belgian, following in the tradition of the 16th century "Mechelse Hofjes" or "Besloten Hofjes". Obviously not as grand, but certainly a very nice piece.
    Mechels Hofje:
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    From your name I take it that you read Dutch/Flemish, so here is a site with info:
    https://beslotenhofjes.com/wat-zijn-de-besloten-hofjes/
    On the site is a video with English subtitles and some explanation in English, so everyone can enjoy this typical Mechelen artform.
     
  9. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Don't know anything about these - but really cool!
     
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  10. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    I wouldn't be surprised, either! I'm very excited about seeing more pics. :joyful:
     
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  11. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    While waiting on the OP, I thought I would post some examples of the needlework that I'm thinking of when I say that I think this could be 18th/19th century work.

    A Spanish metallic thread and stumpwork embroidered silk picture: Shroud of Turin early 18th century
    https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21016/lot/1518/?category=list

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    English Needlepoint Picture of Shepherds, 19th century, watercolor and silk, the figures depicted with sheep and a house, ht. 16 3/8, wd. 17 1/4 (sight), framed 19 1/2 x 20 in. (I included this one because I think the faces on the OP's piece are likely watercolor as well)
    https://www.skinnerinc.com/auctions/3110T/lots/2111

    temp03.jpg

    Antique French Silk Embroidery, An Outstanding And Extremely Rare Fine Framed Antique Embroidery Of A Man With His Dog, 17th Century (it's etsy, I make no claims about the accuracy of the description, but look at that face and hand!)
    https://www.etsy.com/listing/601543326/antique-french-silk-embroidery-an

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    ANTIQUE FRENCH BLUE STUMPWORK PELMET SILVER METALLIC EMBROIDERY 19TH-CENTURY (It's pinterest, so no link, but the provided description seems reasonable). I included this one because of the glass/stone embellishments.

    temp02.jpg
     
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  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    @Jivvy , with pictures like that I don't mind waiting.:happy:
     
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