Please id this Friar with chalice, painted on porcelain

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  1. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    forgive my ignorance, do you know what this data means?
    Thank you

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  2. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    i read BOIZENDUCH :)
     
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    I don’t find that as a word. Boizenburg is a location.
     
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  4. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    Yes you're right :)
     
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    i need help Moderator Moderator

    It does look like GDR German Democratic Rebulic. Do you see that? Or something else?
     
  6. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    yes yes it's GDR 100% German Democratic Republic,
    but i dont know the meaning of that data inside the ellipse selection
     
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    I would Guess this is related to the blank porcelain slab. Like a factory code. But maybe, this is just a guess. I would wait for confirmation from someone.
     
  8. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    So... are you certain this is porcelain?
     
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  9. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    I won this work at a Roman auction house, and the auctioneer described it with the following words:
    "Frate con calice, dipinto su porcellana, 15x19 cm, entro cornice."
    that means :
    "Friar with chalice, painted on porcelain, 15x19 cm, within frame."
     
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  10. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Deleted. Unimportant.
     
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    , Is there any information you can add? Maybe a rough date for the factory? Thank you! :)
     
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  13. anundverkaufen

    anundverkaufen Bird Feeder

    Still in business but with the GDR we know it’s 1949 or later. It’s ceramic not porcelain and a blank painted elsewhere, not at the factory.
     
  14. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for your info.
    Do you know why they write cop. as abbreviation of copy? Cop. and copy they both have 4 characters, so I cannot understand the meaning, I can understand cop. as abbreviation of a longer word, for example copyright, or similar Or maybe it could also be an abbreviation of a dutch word... Which is your point of view ? Many thanks
     
  15. anundverkaufen

    anundverkaufen Bird Feeder

    I already told you my point of view, cop.=copy or copia.
    I’ve seen it abbreviated in many languages, it doesn’t really matter, does it? It’s a copy of a 19th century painting on a 20th century tile, nothing more, nothing less.
     
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  16. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    everything educated comes from latin. copiare or copiat (he/she copied) like the often seen fec. for fecit (he/she made it).
     
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  17. Gianluca72

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  18. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    Ok thanks But I still do not understand two things to which I have not received an answer: if this is a copy, it is a copy of what? of an original painting of reference, otherwise it could not be a copy. Agree, but where is this original? I searched the web but among his works I did not find this painting. Moreover What is the gain, the advantage of spending time and work to make a simple copy?
    Thanks for your explanation
     
  19. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    It has long been the practice of students to make copies. It has long been the practice of sales people to commission copies.

    It has long been the practice for a million different reasons. Some nefarious, some innocent.

    Copies in the art world are common, not rare.
     
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  20. Gianluca72

    Gianluca72 Well-Known Member

    Ok thanks But this is the copy of which original work?
     
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