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<p>[QUOTE="afantiques, post: 91114, member: 25"]What Shangas says is theoretically correct but wildly improbable, if you buy a 1990 car you can expect a 1990 engine in it,and routine watches of the period are the same.</p><p>Both are late 19th C Swiss made lady's fob watches (less popular than the larger man's watch).</p><p><br /></p><p>The top one is a Swiss made and cased barred clubfoot lever escapement watch made around 1890 to 1910, one of many similar Swiss makers, decent but not remarkable quality. Better class watches have the inner cover in gold, slightly cheaper ones are marked 'metal' or 'cuivre' on the inner back cover. Gold weight of the first would be around 20 grams. This is an average, some Swiss cases are very thin, others more meaty. A back that does not flex easily would indicate a more solidly made case. The control marks are normal Swiss marks. Stem wound and pin set.</p><p><br /></p><p>The second example is apparently a Swiss made barred cylinder escapement fob watch, not such a good movement and trivial metal value. British made case as noted, possibly a few years older than the other but absolutely certainly has nothing of 1833 about it. This one is key wound and set.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'd expect to get the first one at auction for around the gold value and the second for about £20 to £25 at auction. The first one would keep better time than the second. Both should be within a few minutes per day. The supply of silver fob watches in the woman's size has always been plentiful and the supply of gold examples smaller of course but matched to demand or more. I have three similar open face gold ones that are just sitting around as I know the best price I'd get is as scrap gold.</p><p><br /></p><p>AS more get scrapped the rarity will increase but it has some way to go yet. The half hunter style would increase the retail potential a bit. Ensure the front cover opens when you push the crown.</p><p><br /></p><p>The term 'fob watch' applies to lady's watches, by convention men's watches are called 'pocket watches', but there is a lot of casual misuse of the terms.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="afantiques, post: 91114, member: 25"]What Shangas says is theoretically correct but wildly improbable, if you buy a 1990 car you can expect a 1990 engine in it,and routine watches of the period are the same. Both are late 19th C Swiss made lady's fob watches (less popular than the larger man's watch). The top one is a Swiss made and cased barred clubfoot lever escapement watch made around 1890 to 1910, one of many similar Swiss makers, decent but not remarkable quality. Better class watches have the inner cover in gold, slightly cheaper ones are marked 'metal' or 'cuivre' on the inner back cover. Gold weight of the first would be around 20 grams. This is an average, some Swiss cases are very thin, others more meaty. A back that does not flex easily would indicate a more solidly made case. The control marks are normal Swiss marks. Stem wound and pin set. The second example is apparently a Swiss made barred cylinder escapement fob watch, not such a good movement and trivial metal value. British made case as noted, possibly a few years older than the other but absolutely certainly has nothing of 1833 about it. This one is key wound and set. I'd expect to get the first one at auction for around the gold value and the second for about £20 to £25 at auction. The first one would keep better time than the second. Both should be within a few minutes per day. The supply of silver fob watches in the woman's size has always been plentiful and the supply of gold examples smaller of course but matched to demand or more. I have three similar open face gold ones that are just sitting around as I know the best price I'd get is as scrap gold. AS more get scrapped the rarity will increase but it has some way to go yet. The half hunter style would increase the retail potential a bit. Ensure the front cover opens when you push the crown. The term 'fob watch' applies to lady's watches, by convention men's watches are called 'pocket watches', but there is a lot of casual misuse of the terms.[/QUOTE]
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