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<p>[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 413207, member: 5833"]It was all my fault that this topic began to take over a thread that was started for a different purpose. (Sorry DeAnne.) Since there may be others out there with a piece to show, a question to ask or a reference to share, thought I'd give Portieux Vallerysthal a home of its own.</p><p><br /></p><p>The innocent question that started it all concerned my inability to find another example of this design in colorless frosted glass, which has the frosted texture on both outside and inside surfaces:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.antiquers.com/attachments/vallerysthal-turtle-mine-3-b-jpg.143905/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>TallCakes found this wonderful site where, among other makers, the catalogs for VP for 1907 & 1908 can be viewed:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Vallerysthal-Portieux-1908.65+B6YmFja1BJRD02NSZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9MjQ1MSZkZXRhaWw9.0.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Vallerysthal-Portieux-1908.65+B6YmFja1BJRD02NSZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9MjQ1MSZkZXRhaWw9.0.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Vall...BJRD02NSZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9MjQ1MSZkZXRhaWw9.0.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>A site with some info on the company's history was found by scoutshouse:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://leverreetlecristal.wordpress.com/tag/vallerysthal/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://leverreetlecristal.wordpress.com/tag/vallerysthal/" rel="nofollow">https://leverreetlecristal.wordpress.com/tag/vallerysthal/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Cherryhill explained <i>Articles décorés à froid</i> for us: <b><i>'Cold Decorated </i></b>would indicate the piece was not fired (to set the enamel), but the enamel cured at room temperature.' This finally explained how another tortoise, also the only one of its type I have seen, was made:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.antiquers.com/attachments/vallerysthal-turtle-2b-jpg.143904/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>The original request was for other search terms I might use besides the obvious ones in looking for anything more on my piece. Pâte de verre was suggested by scoutshouse. I've noticed that sellers sometimes use 'clear' when what they really mean is colorless. Other ideas? PV glass of your own? Let's gather here.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 413207, member: 5833"]It was all my fault that this topic began to take over a thread that was started for a different purpose. (Sorry DeAnne.) Since there may be others out there with a piece to show, a question to ask or a reference to share, thought I'd give Portieux Vallerysthal a home of its own. The innocent question that started it all concerned my inability to find another example of this design in colorless frosted glass, which has the frosted texture on both outside and inside surfaces: [IMG]https://www.antiquers.com/attachments/vallerysthal-turtle-mine-3-b-jpg.143905/[/IMG] TallCakes found this wonderful site where, among other makers, the catalogs for VP for 1907 & 1908 can be viewed: [URL='https://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Vallerysthal-Portieux-1908.65+B6YmFja1BJRD02NSZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9MjQ1MSZkZXRhaWw9.0.html']https://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Vall...BJRD02NSZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9MjQ1MSZkZXRhaWw9.0.html[/URL] A site with some info on the company's history was found by scoutshouse: [URL]https://leverreetlecristal.wordpress.com/tag/vallerysthal/[/URL] Cherryhill explained [I]Articles décorés à froid[/I] for us: [B][I]'Cold Decorated [/I][/B]would indicate the piece was not fired (to set the enamel), but the enamel cured at room temperature.' This finally explained how another tortoise, also the only one of its type I have seen, was made: [IMG]https://www.antiquers.com/attachments/vallerysthal-turtle-2b-jpg.143904/[/IMG] The original request was for other search terms I might use besides the obvious ones in looking for anything more on my piece. Pâte de verre was suggested by scoutshouse. I've noticed that sellers sometimes use 'clear' when what they really mean is colorless. Other ideas? PV glass of your own? Let's gather here.[/QUOTE]
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