Featured Qianlong or kangxi bowl

something i found a while ago that i bought with a few other chinese pieces.
gonna list it but unsure of correct period
nice condition apart from a few little fleabites
im guessing its gotta be pre 19th,

any help appreciated

 

There's a FB group, China Trade Porcelain of the 18th c. If you're on FB, you could query them, but it's a group I joined, so if you want me to snag the photos, I could post for you.

 

Fab plate, BTW.

 

thanks Kworld, yeah that would be great !

 

There's a lot of iron in that clay, so it's going to be early 19th. There's an outside chance it's the very end of the 18th, but these are usually considered early 19th and people who buy them aren't going to be swayed by trying to predate it.

 

ah interesting, thanks for the info

 

I'll give it a go with the FB group and see what they say although I reckon Ce BCA has it right.

 

Did you deduce that from the colour of the foot rim?

 

Yes, although that can be faked for repros, but you can see it in the glaze pops as well, so it's generally indicative. The clay is usually washed far better in earlier pieces. There are other indicators as well such as the draughting and the blue circles, they look wrong for 18th century or earlier.

 

Thanks. I guess you can only get proficient in identifying pieces by handling lots of them.

 

No joy. A few likes, but no responses. But Ce BCA is very knowledgeable, so I'd go with his/her explanation.

 

Well, one reply to my FB post popped up today: "All indicators point to Kangxi circa1700-1720." I don't know if this is correct or not, but some more research/investigation might be an idea.

 

thanks for your help kworld, i appreciate it. i can see why somebody would suggest that

but i do think ce bs point about the base seems to ring true, it (the base) does seem to look closer to nineteenth century pieces ive had than earlier ones

ill hold off on trying to sell it untill im 100% though

 

since when do we take a Facebook ID over one from our own members ?

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Facebook knows everything.

 

There was another comment this morning that identified it as Kangxi.

 

Well, there are some extremely knowledgeable (dare I say experts) on some of the FB groups and the one to which I posted OPs plate has dedicated collectors of this porcelain. If anyone is interested and is on FB, the group is called China Trade Porcelain of the 18th Century. Our own member, Ce BCA, has said that it is not easy to be certain about some things without seeing the item in the flesh. Photos are good, but not everything.

 

maybe........but we are Legend !

 

That's right - often when looking at auction catalogues you can suspect one period, then see them in the flesh and it's obviously something else.

One thing that is important though is the why - if someone in the group says 'Kangxi' you need to know why they think so - what characteristics made them come to that conclusion. Just stating Kangxi, late Qing, repro etc isn't helpful at all.

 

I did ask for specific clues, but neither poster elaborated.