Featured Quadruple Silver Plate Ice Pitcher- Who is the maker?

Discussion in 'Silver' started by Graymich64, Nov 16, 2018.

  1. Graymich64

    Graymich64 Well-Known Member

    I found this beautiful Ice water pitcher and half of the mark is rubbed away. Have you seen one like this, or can you recognize the stamp? Also, should you clean old silver plate or just leave it alone. Thank you so much for your help! IMG_5327.JPG IMG_5325.JPG IMG_5324 (1).JPG
     
  2. Barn Owl

    Barn Owl Well-Known Member

    Nice! I'd recommend leaving it alone; I've had plating come off quadruple plated items before when I tried polishing them.
     
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  3. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Since the letters SU are visible on the left where the name should start, I believe this is marked Superior Silver Plate (which was a trademark of Middletown Plate Company for their "low-priced line." See the Superior mark furthest to the right at the bottom of this page.

    https://www.sterlingflatwarefashions.com/SPMfgs/SPS2.html

    Leave it alone. That very dark middle section was likely meant to be that way so the cut in floral decoration would stand out. I had a similarly finished piece that someone had tried to clean and it looked awful. I tried to get the rest off to make it look less odd, and it was a bear to do! :eek::wacky:

    Addendum - this advice is for this piece only! Normally, if the item is to be sold I recommend cleaning to make sure that any flaws (like plate loss hiding under tarnish) become visible to both you for your description and the buyer for their decision.
     
  4. Graymich64

    Graymich64 Well-Known Member

    Thank you for the info. I was thinking it looked like a S I. Could it possibly be British or Irish? The mark doesn't look like the Superior one. Or it could just be a different stamp design for that company?
     
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  5. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    No this could not be either British or Irish. But I do see your point about the areas that don't match the Superior example I linked. Unfortunately I could not find a maker name starting with SI that matches either. Whatever the name was going around the curve, it ends in TAL (metal?) Part of the problem is the vast number of US silver plate makers, many not documented because they didn't last long. The other part of the problem is that maker marks were not regulated or need to be "registered" back then. Whoever it was, it's not one of the big names. I'll keep looking.
     
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  6. Graymich64

    Graymich64 Well-Known Member

    Thanks! I have not had much luck finding anything.
     
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  7. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Out of curiosity, is this a double-walled pitcher?
     
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  8. Graymich64

    Graymich64 Well-Known Member

    No, but it has that compartment inside for ice.
     
  9. Graymich64

    Graymich64 Well-Known Member

    I was wrong. It is double walled also. It's very large and heavy. 15" tall
     
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  10. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    It's very nice, but picking it up when full of water and ice must require some serious muscles!
     
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  11. Graymich64

    Graymich64 Well-Known Member

    Yes, I haven't tried to fill it. Do you know if they are worth very much to sell? I know it usually depends on what company and when they were made.
     
  12. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    You'd have to check eBay completed listings for things of the same type to see about how they sell.
     
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  13. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    There is a word ending with Y, above the co. (Probably not much help)
     
  14. Graymich64

    Graymich64 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for your help.
     
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