Featured QUESTION ABOUT ALEXANDER CALDER LITHO?

Discussion in 'Art' started by journeymagazine, Nov 19, 2019.

  1. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I found this at a friend's 2nd hand furniture store today. I know it's Alexander Calder's 'Horse". The art work itself measures 29" x 21"

    Is this a regular print like on art.com or a better one? Is the size unusual?

    While googling Calder I saw one of his that was hand numbered on the bottom left - this one has what looks like H.C. (but is probably A.C.?) on the bottom eft & his signature on the bottom right.
    The reg prints I've seen have a signature on lower right but I've seen no mention of the initials on the lower left?
    Also is it a print? A lithograph? A serigraph? A silkscreen?
    The paper along the edges looks like a better paper than a smooth newer poster edge would be, right?
    Any help with what I have would be greatly appreciated.

    ART PRINT CALDER ALEXANDER  HORSE 1AAZZ.JPG ART PRINT CALDER ALEXANDER HORSE 2AA.JPG ART PRINT CALDER ALEXANDER HORSE 3AA.JPG
     
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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    HC = Hors Commerce. Sure a better (and clearer) definition exists but to get you started...

    "Translated from French as "Not to sell," publishers use such impressions as exhibition copies, thereby preserving the numbered impressions from overexposure or rough handling. These proofs started to appear on the market as extensions of editions printed in the late 1960's."

    Debora
     
  3. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    So when do you think this was printed Debora? I read 'Horse' came out in the 70's.
    Is this from that period - as opposed to a newer print from art.com, etc..?
     
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  4. Debora

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  5. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    HC is just another way to say "unlimited edition" - HC's are generally not one or two but hundreds+ outside of the edition.. trend started by Dali :rolleyes:
     
  6. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Ah... In other words, a marketing ploy. Thank you for clarifying.

    Debora
     
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  7. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

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  8. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    AND That one is marked XI/C - #11 of 100 - not HC?
     
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  9. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Oh, you're right. Roman numerals. (Gotta get those reading glasses.)

    Debora
     
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  10. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Is it same paper ?
     
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  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    it should be cuz all were printed at the same time.....but it means nothing to value ...and if trimmed.......less value..
     
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  12. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    1975, right when my sister and new husband were investing in Dalis... :artist::bag:
     
  13. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Well if it's a reproduction it seems there would be more out there? There are none (of The Horse) that I could find on ebay & only a handful on the internet.
     
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  14. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    I wouldn't dismiss it because of the HC, but I would ask you to double-check the measurements.

    https://whitney.org/collection/works/3683
    Sheet: 29 5/8 × 22 1/4in. (75.2 × 56.5 cm)
    Image: 29 1/8 × 22 1/4in. (74 × 56.5 cm)
     
  15. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I will Jivvy - and thanks
     
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  16. rink28

    rink28 Well-Known Member

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  17. Do check out the Calder Foundation website. Look under "misattributed works" and click on "explore works." There is a troublingly similar work identified there as a "fake." The advice offered by other contributors to this thread concerning H.C. editions is both sound and salutary. I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but please tread carefully.
     
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  18. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    upload_2019-11-20_19-48-46.jpeg This image was not created by Alexander Calder. As such, the edition of this image was not authorized by the Artist, the Estate of the Artist, or the Calder Foundation. All examples of this print, which are signed, stone signed, or unsigned, are fake and are violations of the Intellectual Property of the Artist.
     
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  19. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    please....expound on your thoughts !
    We're all learning here.....& this is not a site for 'yes men ', but a place to root out the truth !!:happy::happy:
     
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  20. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Thank you for posting that, I couldn't get the site to display properly.

    Obviously, that one is not the same as what journey has.
     
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