Request help identifying age and style of antique sideboard

Discussion in 'Furniture' started by Tom Lowell, Aug 22, 2017.

  1. Tom Lowell

    Tom Lowell New Member

    Hello,

    Could someone help confirm the age and style and perhaps manufacturer of this sideboard? I have a letter written to my great grandfather in 1897 claiming it is French and from 1750. I'd also be interested in knowing it's approx. value if it's within forum rules to ask. Have been told $2-3K. thank you...
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  2. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Pictures of the dovetails and the underside would be a big help. I think its American,possibly an early 20th century reproduction. Thats all a guess though.
     
  3. Tom Lowell

    Tom Lowell New Member

    Thanks. I'll get additional pictures within the next day or so.

    Here's a personal letter to my great granddad which doesn't really authenticate anything but I think is cool. Maybe he got taken with a 20th century reproduction. There's some other doc with the sideboard which I'll photograph. sideboardletter.JPG
     
  4. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    The style is Hepplewhite so would think British or American rather than French. Will be impossible to tell age without construction details, a look at the back, etc.
     
  5. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Interesting sidenote. W. B. Standish was the proprietor of the "Old Curiosity Shop" in Plymouth, MA. in the 1890's.

    "A veritable museum of colonial curios" per an article in the Boston Globe.
     
  6. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    Looks 20th century to me as well.
     
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  7. Sandra

    Sandra Well-Known Member

    Could it be possible that the letter is referring to a different sideboard that your great grandfather purchased in 1897. The letter makes no reference to dimensions, type of wood or any other identifying characteristics. Perhaps your GGF disposed of the piece purchased in 1897 and replaced it with this one and for whatever reason the letters didn't remain with the 1897 piece.
     
  8. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

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  9. Tom Lowell

    Tom Lowell New Member

    Thanks for all the replies to date. Here are the other pictures that were requested.

    Dovetail in drawer joint...
    dovetaildrawer.JPG

    Underside...
    bottom1.JPG bottom2.JPG bottom3.JPG bottom4.JPG

    back...
    back.JPG

    closeup of shield on back...
    backshield.JPG

    And for fun, the original copy of the typed letter above...
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    An "estate sale" person (not an antique appraiser) is suggesting we expect no more than $2-3K in an estate sale. Does this seem reasonable?

    thanks....
     
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  10. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Im no expert,but that sure looks like plywood on the back. I wonder what those shield shapes were ? Im probably wrong,but I still get early 20th century vibes.Even if it were period,2-3 grand is a high end estimate.
     
  11. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    I think there is a good chance it's period because of the drawer construction & the back appears to have hand plane marks.
    Even if period, agrees on 2-3k valuation at the high end in a retail setting, half that or less at auction.
     
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  12. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Agree that this appears to be period. $2-3K in an estate sale situation is probably about right, if not a bit high depending on area. You might see it higher in a very nice shop in a big city. Always have to keep in mind that, when one needs to sell, you can seldom achieve the results one might see in a high end shop. Particularly with higher end furniture, you are likely to be selling to that dealer and he/she is only going to pay a fraction of what they intend to sell it for.
     
  13. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    The problem with sideboards is, they tend to be large in an era when most do not have separate dining rooms, the trend today is large kitchens with an eating area and no dining room. Another thing, condition, it usually plays a big role in what the value will be as well as what kind of example is it? good, better, best or masterpiece?

    As Brad says, where you sell is very important too. For instance, take victorian furniture, many places you can hardly give it away these days but in New Orleans garden district or Cape May on the New Jersey shore, victorian sells very well because there is a large stock of victorian houses.
     
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  14. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    That screams and shouts English to me. It also shouts to me that it had an overmantle mirror or upper part. That's why the shield infills: it's where uprights have been removed. The back looks more like deal or pine, which isn't uncommon - a cheap wood on the back where it doesn't show. I'm a bit undecided on whether it's period or not. The Victorians had a habit of taking nice Georgian and earlier designs and fiddling with them. As in, an overmantle type mirror. How are those handles fixed inside please? Oh, and a look at the hinges would be useful, likewise if you can get a picture of the veneer edge.
     
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  15. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    It could very well be english. I can't tell what secondary wood is on drawer sides but if oak, it probably is english. Americans rarely use oak in drawer construction in this period. Naturally, if english, that will lower value in USA, no doubt.
     
  16. Tom Lowell

    Tom Lowell New Member

    Thanks for all the comments. I'll get pictures of the handles' fixation and the hinges tomorrow.
     
  17. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    A photo of drawer sides & bottom would help as well to help determine if an English or American piece.
     
  18. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

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  19. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    Beautiful!
     
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  20. Tom Lowell

    Tom Lowell New Member

    More pics.

    back...
    back.JPG

    notch on back...
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    handle...
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    handle fixation (or lack of evidence of)...
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    drawer side...

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    drawer back...

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    drawer bottom...

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    hinge...

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    inlay (2 pics)...

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