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<p>[QUOTE="MikeMerak, post: 1241360, member: 12917"]Wildenstein is currently preparing a new Renoir catalog. Interesting thing is that Wildenstein and Bernheim do not get on at all. Don't know where the animosity started but they do not work too well together. </p><p><br /></p><p>Yes you are very correct about having your ducks in a row. One needs provenance and without that it is definitely not even worth thinking about approaching them Apart from that one needs technical and scientific analysis and connoisseurs opinions. Anything less and it is not worth submitting to Wildenstein - just a waste of money. I know I am not likely to find anything on this picture but I will keep looking.</p><p><br /></p><p>The thing is this, the picture is very much like Renoir's later period based on the background which was actually one of the drape backdrops he used. He did a few paintings using this yellow, red and predominantly green background. Using that one can date when this painting should be from (if he painted it). That date is from about 1910 or so onwards. Now during this period Renoir's style tended to be looser probably partly due to his arthritis and age. He was also churning out work as at this point he was in demand however I think quality suffered. My painting is a little too tight and tidy for this period.</p><p><br /></p><p>Renoir did have a friend by the name of Abel Faivre who sometimes painted with Renoir and picked up some of his techniques. He also tried to teach Renoir how to ride a bike and Renoir fell off the bike braking his arm (I think it was his arm) but that is another story. Faivre's painting style looks similar to Renoir but not quite, however it could be by him.</p><p><br /></p><p>Another option is that it is a homage painting but then why is it not signed? Maybe designed to deceive. The one thing I have found interesting is there appears to be an "R" in the rose and in the girls hair but one can sometimes read too much into a painting! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smile.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":)" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="MikeMerak, post: 1241360, member: 12917"]Wildenstein is currently preparing a new Renoir catalog. Interesting thing is that Wildenstein and Bernheim do not get on at all. Don't know where the animosity started but they do not work too well together. Yes you are very correct about having your ducks in a row. One needs provenance and without that it is definitely not even worth thinking about approaching them Apart from that one needs technical and scientific analysis and connoisseurs opinions. Anything less and it is not worth submitting to Wildenstein - just a waste of money. I know I am not likely to find anything on this picture but I will keep looking. The thing is this, the picture is very much like Renoir's later period based on the background which was actually one of the drape backdrops he used. He did a few paintings using this yellow, red and predominantly green background. Using that one can date when this painting should be from (if he painted it). That date is from about 1910 or so onwards. Now during this period Renoir's style tended to be looser probably partly due to his arthritis and age. He was also churning out work as at this point he was in demand however I think quality suffered. My painting is a little too tight and tidy for this period. Renoir did have a friend by the name of Abel Faivre who sometimes painted with Renoir and picked up some of his techniques. He also tried to teach Renoir how to ride a bike and Renoir fell off the bike braking his arm (I think it was his arm) but that is another story. Faivre's painting style looks similar to Renoir but not quite, however it could be by him. Another option is that it is a homage painting but then why is it not signed? Maybe designed to deceive. The one thing I have found interesting is there appears to be an "R" in the rose and in the girls hair but one can sometimes read too much into a painting! :-)[/QUOTE]
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