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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Potteryplease, post: 11063800, member: 16407&quot;]And the whirling log image can limit its value: some people get tired of having to explain again and again that it predates the swastika, that it&#039;s an ancient symbol, that is has positive connotations, etc etc[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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