Featured Russian numbered plate

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  1. Penny Sheppard

    Penny Sheppard Active Member

    Hi, I have a plate that is numbered 245. It reads J.H.V. Made in Russia by Kermi Low Bros. Both the rim and inside are gilded. Would anybody know the value of this plate? Thank you in advance!

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  2. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

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  3. Penny Sheppard

    Penny Sheppard Active Member

  4. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Pretty sure your plate is a re-making of an original and more than likely from the 1990's.

    Don't spend too much on it!:jawdrop:
     
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  5. Penny Sheppard

    Penny Sheppard Active Member

    It’s so exciting to find out the value of ones items! I have three more plates that I’d like to post, and one Cartier pewter canister for trinkets. Does the Cartier get posted on this forum? Many thanks again!
     
  6. Penny Sheppard

    Penny Sheppard Active Member

    I already own it. Too bad, that’s a disappointment. My husband received it as a gift from a couple who collected and decorated their apt with antiques. They gifted him another plate which I’d like to post as well. Both were from their collection. We didn’t have room at the time to accept any of the other offerings.
     
  7. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Not necessarily worth a kings ransom perhaps, but still a rare and beautiful plate!

    And yes, please post your items, we would love to see them.
     
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  8. Penny Sheppard

    Penny Sheppard Active Member

    I’m sorry, I’m a quick learn! I understand that it’s a remake of the original. Does that mean that the 245 is # 245 of the remake or just a random number placed? Also, did the company remake it or would it be made by someone else? Thank you, once these questions are answered I will be up to speed!
     
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  9. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    Blooey, can you explain why you think this is a repro?
     
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  10. SBSVC

    SBSVC Well-Known Member

    Penny, I'm wondering if it would be worth asking about your plate here:
    http://www.antiqforum.com/russian_kornilow.html

    They say they will ID/value Kornilow pieces for free...

    They show this one as pattern 245, and the edge design/detail certainly looks similar to yours:

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    p.s. I LOVE your plate!
     
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  13. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    AFAIK the early (Imperial) porcelains were never marked this way, i.e. in English ...

    The factory was re-started (at least reverted to the original name) in the Gorbachev era and went out of business in the early 2000's.

    I could be wrong but that's what I understand - the pre-revolution era pieces are the valuable ones. In my opinion, this plate is from the later production years.

    History of the factory:
    https://www.theoldstuff.com/en/porcelain-marks/category/191-kornilov-brothers-marks
     
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  14. SBSVC

    SBSVC Well-Known Member

    Blooey, I'm not at all familiar with this particular make of porcelain, but here's what I read on the site I linked to above. (Highlighting is mine...):

    Kornilow (Kornilov) Brothers (Bros.) produced dinner, tea sets and other service wear in Russian folk style also referred to as Pan-Slavik style
    in late 19th and early 20th century St Petersburg, Russia.

    The majority of production was for export to North America where the company struck distribution agreements with leading retailers such as
    Tiffany in New York, Bailey Banks & Biddle Co in Philadelphia, Shreve & Company in San Francisco, Jaccard Jewelry Co in Kansas City.
     
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  15. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    Thank you blooey. Since they don't show the marks from the perestroika years and we don't know exactly how they marked it for export, I think it would be a good idea for Penny to ask for an appraisal on that link and see what they say.
     
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  16. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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    was the imperial warrant only on the plates from 1900 ..???
     
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  17. Penny Sheppard

    Penny Sheppard Active Member

    Thank you for both your advice and your compliment! I appreciate both!
     
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  18. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    I wholeheartedly agree, MCT ..get an appraisal from an expert in the stuff. - I may be totally off on the marking, maybe it is marked like that, without the imperial warrant an' all ...

    I'm just skeptical because of all that super high quality re-made Faberge stuff that started showing up in the early 90's ..it was "kind of real" too!
     
  19. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    Komo, they might not have used that for exports. It will be interesting to see what they tell her.
     
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  20. Penny Sheppard

    Penny Sheppard Active Member

    Thank you!
     
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