Featured Setting of vtg oil-on-board, unsigned?

Discussion in 'Art' started by springfld.arsenal, Apr 15, 2018.

  1. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

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    Is this a fantasy setting or a real place? Got it for cheap last hour of estate sale. Approx 18 x 12”. I know it isn’t great but I liked it better than any other art there.

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  2. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Can't help with the where, but that's an interesting back. Too bad the label isn't complete. These boards with black painted backs have been described in these forums as new, and factory painted. I wonder if the label indicates that they can also be old. Of course, the label itself could be fake, but if so, I would expect it to be complete. Partial as it is, makes it difficult to follow up. (Are they that devious?)

    Stylistically it reminds me of those William Henry Chandler paintings, which are antique, but are themselves a c1900 expression of factory art. Still, the age gives them some cachet.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Henry_Chandler_(painter)
     
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  3. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS!!!

    Well, it's a brand, spankin' shiny new finishing nail helping hold it in the frame, but I guess that MIGHT not matter........:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Spring, I wish your images were bigger so we could scrutinize them more closely!!!!!:D:smuggrin::cool::cool::cool:
     
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  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    It is odd that the label is positioned so oddly and cropped just so the company name and street address is not fully visible.

    Debora
     
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  5. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Somebody cut the board in half, looks like, and the label with it. It's definitely old.
     
  6. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    Anytime needed I can give full-sized pic by using a link to my Wordpress acct.; otherwise I normally post by sending the pix to myself so they are about 70k. Seems like so many here refuse to click on links, going to the trouble of putting online first may not be worthwhile.
     
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  7. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS!!!

    Wonder who's buying the other half with what image on it!!!!! (IF it's a fake) (NO disrespect to you Spring!!):hilarious::smuggrin::eek::cool::cool::rolleyes:
     
  8. Huntingtreasure

    Huntingtreasure Well-Known Member

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    This one is 1952,
    Yours looks like 1932, but I think that’s the company. Hard to Judge by eye.
     
  9. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Clever you!

    Debora
     
  10. Huntingtreasure

    Huntingtreasure Well-Known Member

    Don’t know if that’s any help, just one less distraction!
     
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  11. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    Good find! I started looking for that but gave up after a couple of minutes; the date in the trademark area (most likely on all their products) is 1852, from zooming in on the complete one u found-thanks!
     
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  12. Huntingtreasure

    Huntingtreasure Well-Known Member

    Aaarrrggg!! My eyes! :wideyed: Glad you noticed!
     
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  13. Huntingtreasure

    Huntingtreasure Well-Known Member

    It seems many with this label, are half, or oddly placed. So, that’s promising!
     
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  14. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

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  15. Huntingtreasure

    Huntingtreasure Well-Known Member

    Is there writing, left hand corner?
    To the very right of white rock.
     
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  16. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    I don't think you lost any money on it. You could probably make a profit. Still can't help with the where, but those may be birch trees off to the side. I don't think the view is tropical, would guess it's European, and I do think it's antique.

    I'm not aware of any professional framer who uses nails.

    Good job on finding the label, and the date in the trade mark. So that suggests that a black back is not necessarily proof that a piece is new.

    What is this painted on? Luan is a thin plywood. Is this plywood? Board? Cardboard?

    I have shown this farmyard painting before:
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    It has a black back:
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    I took it out of its frame to photograph the edge of the painting, and am satisfied that it is painted on plywood. So... Luan.
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    Here are the fasteners used in framing:
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    I think I've shown this one as well. This painting (which I'm calling "The Lady of the Rubber Wrist") also has a black back:
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    Notice that the upper left corner is crumpled. Here's a view, edge-on, of that corner. This painting has less than half the thickness of the farm scene and is painted on cardboard. So... I'm content to call it old.
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    The bottom line is that a black back is not sufficient to label a painting "new". What it is painted on makes a difference.
     
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  17. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    I think that information was from me. I was referring to black painted luan plywood panels.... Much different than these black cardboard panels. My experience with these is that most are mid to late 19th century on in to the very early 20th century. It is common to see panels cut down for paintings with the labels cut in the process. It was more economical to buy one large panel and cut it for smaller paintings.

    As for the art itself, would think this a decorative painting of a fantasy place. You see a lot of these formulaic paintings of pleasant scenes.... Add mountains, water, house, and tree(s)
     
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  18. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Wrote the above before seeing moreotherstuff's spot-on reply.
     
  19. Huntingtreasure

    Huntingtreasure Well-Known Member

    CD9DD3CE-AB5E-4B3F-9479-A28D413DDD98.jpeg I am prone to seeing things that aren’t there! Can anyone see it too?
     
  20. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    I think that paper material is called millboard.
     
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