Featured Silver mark on syrup pitcher

Discussion in 'Silver' started by Brywil1970, Nov 18, 2020.

  1. Brywil1970

    Brywil1970 Well-Known Member

    Cannot find this mark anywhere. It is either an S or a Z in the circle. It is marked sterling-silver 925/1000 fine (then the logo) 725.

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  2. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Interesting piece, Can you get a better-focused picture of the entire marking please?
     
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  3. Brywil1970

    Brywil1970 Well-Known Member

  4. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

  5. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    BTW, how tall? With no lid I would not call it a "syrup pitcher."
     
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  6. Brywil1970

    Brywil1970 Well-Known Member

    Sorry had to run you are probably right it is somewhere around 8 to 10” tall
     
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  8. Marie Forjan

    Marie Forjan Well-Known Member

    That's a lot of syrup :woot:
     
  9. Brywil1970

    Brywil1970 Well-Known Member

    It is 9 1/2” tall so what would the correct name for it be?
     
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    i need help Moderator Moderator

    1CAEC37B-D1B5-4048-BD56-B2B6AD366AF4.jpeg What is this part? Looks like 3 letters? F??
     
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  11. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Perhaps a "claret jug?"
     
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  12. Brywil1970

    Brywil1970 Well-Known Member

    That is the word FINE
     
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  13. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Should be the word FINE, based on what Bry has already posted.
     
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    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Ok, thank you!
     
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  15. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Bry - It might be a good idea for you to gently clean the area of the mark to clarify what is the real mark and what is tarnished smudges. I am not convinced that the "circle with an S or a Z" is an important identifier.
     
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  16. MrNate

    MrNate Well-Known Member

  17. Brywil1970

    Brywil1970 Well-Known Member

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  18. Brywil1970

    Brywil1970 Well-Known Member

    So i have looked at ever american makers mark on 925.com and no matches. I was sure this would be an American mark. Any other countries i should think of
     
  19. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

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  20. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Looked at this last night, the images were too fuzzy for my old eyes (wouldn't have recognized what INH asked about if I hadn't read the OP's text) - saw that Nate suggested Mauser, and was in agreement. There may be a lightly or partially struck Mauser trademark under all the streaks and spots of tarnish, or there might not be, but that hyphenated sans-serif 'STERLING-SILVER', along with the other marks are typical of Mauser and don't believe I've seen the hyphen used by other American makers. If a piece with the same garland motif could be found bearing Mauser marks, that would confirm it, but have doubt that IDing the mystery mark is worth much more effort - personally, if the trademark isn't there, would just point out the similarity to Mauser marks, a silver collector would recognize its quality and age, as would an ABCG collector.

    Don't know that circular mark, but would agree with Bakersgma that it's likely an 'S' - should keep in mind that while Mauser did have a retail operation, they were wholesalers to the trade, and their pieces can be found with retailer's stamps, though most retailers didn't bother, Mauser was a quality maker (not that it's necessarily a retailer's mark). If I recall correctly, all of Mauser's stock was sold off before Mount Vernon was formed in the teens (the Mauser workshop in Mt. Vernon, NY becoming the site for the business), and personally can't recall seeing pieces of this quality bearing a Mount Vernon mark. A Gorham controlled holding company oversaw Mount Vernon and other companies, but so far as I know, Gorham never produced Mauser or Mount Vernon designs.

    It would date to the late 19th-early 20th century, and as already said, too large for syrup and no lid - a claret jug should also have a lid or stopper. This form was usually called a lemonade and/or water pitcher, sold both singly and in sets with small tumblers - occasionally claret or champagne would be another suggested use (suppose for those who finish off their wine after decanting), and though pretty uncommon, have seen them with stoppers...

    ~Cheryl
     
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