Featured Small bone or Ivory and tortoise shell carved thing?

Discussion in 'Tribal Art' started by 916Bulldogs123, Oct 29, 2022.

  1. 916Bulldogs123

    916Bulldogs123 Well-Known Member

    I hope someone can tell me what it is.
    It is 6" long, either bone or ivory and the dark end piece I think is Tortoise shell? A totem style carving on one side with four figures.
    Some look like birds? weee 2479.jpg
    I figured it was interesting enough to fork out $2.00 for it.
    Mikey
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  2. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Too short for a conductor's baton, so...?
     
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  3. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    Can’t it maybe be a hair pin? Hair stick? Or part of a hair cover ‘clip’
     
  4. ulilwitch

    ulilwitch Well-Known Member

    I agree with Boland. Looks like a very pretty hair pin.
     
  5. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Maybe a fishing net awl?
     
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  6. 916Bulldogs123

    916Bulldogs123 Well-Known Member

    A little birdie just told me it is Alaskan carved totem calligraphy pen missing the nib.
    Mikey
     
  7. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Yes, made to hold a steel nib-
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    I have a similar one, made of walrus tusk ivory. The dark part is, I believe, made of baleen.
     
  8. 916Bulldogs123

    916Bulldogs123 Well-Known Member

    So most likely Ivory and baleen. Does baleen give that reddish color like tortoise shell? Dark and translucent.
    Mikey
     
  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Only if those whales didn't brush their teeth.
     
  10. 916Bulldogs123

    916Bulldogs123 Well-Known Member

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  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Always good to see you too, Mikey.:)
     
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  12. Lark

    Lark Well-Known Member

    Bulldog beat me to it. I have plain wooden ones. Nothing fancy like yours.
     
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  13. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Hard to be 100% sure based on photos, but that seems most likely. I believe these were made as souvenirs in Alaska, so these are the materials most available and traditional. Baleen is made of keratin, like tortoiseshell, so they are similar in appearance and properties.
     
  14. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Logical. I've used dip pens before, but with no ink stains I bet this was just a desk ornament.
     
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  15. Woutinc

    Woutinc .wordpress.com

    Is this no chopstick? Panda bear below with those dark circles around his eyes?
     
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  16. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    No panda; Northwest Coast (Alaska) native designs. The red color would be an added pigment. A pen certainly.
     
  17. Woutinc

    Woutinc .wordpress.com

    Ok. Clear.
    Then i follow hairpin.
    And i was thinking it perhaps could be a cloth closer pin. Also an ancient usage of such pins from stoneage and up. Could be reasonable to close a fur skin cape in Alaska.

    PS, beautifull object!

    A bone example...
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    Last edited: Nov 2, 2022
  18. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    Just to clarify, this is a pen, a dip pen, as others have mentioned, made of ivory and baleen; if it was in hand, you'd see at the thick end where the nib would fit in. Not an uncommon item, but hard to find in an internet search unless you know exactly what to search for - like "carved ivory dip pen totem design" perhaps.
    Here's a similar one, from Flickr, captioned as a dip pen:

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  19. Woutinc

    Woutinc .wordpress.com

    Sorry. Must have overread that.
     
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