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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Any Jewelry, post: 1303337, member: 2844&quot;]Welcome Ann.</p><p>Both vessels are antique storage vessels, not ginger jars. They are Southeast Asian, the first one is Thai, or possibly Annamese (Vietnam). Thai and Annamese styles are very closely related.</p><p>Although China is known for fake antique porcelain, I am not aware of any Southeast Asian stoneware (storage vessel) fakes. Because the stoneware market is very different from the porcelain market, their &#039;stories&#039; are very different.</p><p>I do know the antique ones are notoriously hard to put a date on. So whether they date from ca 1000 or ca 1700 is difficult to ascertain.</p><p>Some types are still being made, simply because they are household items. The difference between new and antique is not very difficult to spot. If the site where they were found is known, that sometimes helps to date them, but storage vessels were often used for centuries because stoneware is very durable. Many were made, and quite a few survived.</p><p>The shipwreck story could have started because many Southeast Asian stoneware storage vessels were used on ships and therefore found in shipwrecks. Some people think &#039;shipwreck&#039; when they see these vessels.</p><p><br /></p><p>The tag and seal on the first one look like an official Thai export tag and seal for antiques and antiquities to me. Those are issued by either the Thai Office of Antiquities and Museums, or one of the National Museums.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don&#039;t know which of the many San Pablos (San Pablo, Philippines?) the second one was excavated at, so I can&#039;t say anything about that.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=";)" unselectable="on" /> I am not familiar with that specific model, I would have to check my books and files to see if I can find something similar.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you have an uneasy feeling, don&#039;t buy. Option B sounds like a good option.</p><p>Having said that, I have no reason to believe the Thai one is a fake, but I would rather see if I can find one for a lower price. Though I don&#039;t know the other one, it looks legit to me.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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