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<p>[QUOTE="KingofThings, post: 82050, member: 468"]Hi! I think it would be rare, if at all, that a Merchant Marine ship would have had dazzle paint as the company would likely have had to bear that cost. Seems Lloyd's would prefer that, maybe a discount, but I don't know if insurance covered wartime sailing.</p><p>MM dazzle painted ships are something I will have to watch for but had I seen any I would have them. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smile.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":)" unselectable="on" /></p><p>What are you going to do with the photos?</p><p>~</p><p>p.s.</p><p>"In 1940, while escorting a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convoy" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convoy" rel="nofollow">convoy</a>, Lord Mountbatten of the British Royal Navy noted that one ship in the group vanished from view much earlier than the remainder. The ship, a Union-Castle liner, was painted <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavender" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavender" rel="nofollow">lavender</a> mauve grey. Mountbatten thus became convinced of the colour's effectiveness as a camouflage during dawn and dusk, often dangerous times for ships, and had all of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destroyer" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destroyer" rel="nofollow">destroyers</a> of his flotilla painted with a similar pigment, which he created by mixing a medium grey with a small amount of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetian_Red" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetian_Red" rel="nofollow">Venetian Red</a>. By early 1941, several other ships began using the same camouflage, though no formal testing was done to determine how well it worked.</p><p><br /></p><p>A later refinement of the basic Mountbatten Pink camouflage was the use of a slightly lighter tone of the same colour for the upper structures of the ship. By the end of 1942, however, all vessels of destroyer size and larger had dispensed with Mountbatten Pink, although it is believed that smaller vessels retained this colour until well into 1944. The primary problem with Mountbatten pink was that it stood out around midday, when the sky was no longer pink, and the traditional <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battleship_grey" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battleship_grey" rel="nofollow">battleship grey</a> was much less visible.</p><p><br /></p><p>The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Navy" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Navy" rel="nofollow">US Navy</a> had experimented with a similar shade of paint as well, and at least one ship, the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Winslow_%28DD-359%29" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Winslow_%28DD-359%29" rel="nofollow">USS <i>Winslow</i></a>, received such a paint job.</p><p><br /></p><p>The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriegsmarine" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriegsmarine" rel="nofollow">Kriegsmarine</a> likewise experimented with a light pink shade. The Royal Navy prisoner interrogation report of crew rescued from S 147, a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schnellboot" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schnellboot" rel="nofollow">Schnellboot</a> sunk in the English Channel in April 1944, states the boat's overall pink shade was effective."[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="KingofThings, post: 82050, member: 468"]Hi! I think it would be rare, if at all, that a Merchant Marine ship would have had dazzle paint as the company would likely have had to bear that cost. Seems Lloyd's would prefer that, maybe a discount, but I don't know if insurance covered wartime sailing. MM dazzle painted ships are something I will have to watch for but had I seen any I would have them. :) What are you going to do with the photos? ~ p.s. "In 1940, while escorting a [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convoy']convoy[/URL], Lord Mountbatten of the British Royal Navy noted that one ship in the group vanished from view much earlier than the remainder. The ship, a Union-Castle liner, was painted [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavender']lavender[/URL] mauve grey. Mountbatten thus became convinced of the colour's effectiveness as a camouflage during dawn and dusk, often dangerous times for ships, and had all of the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destroyer']destroyers[/URL] of his flotilla painted with a similar pigment, which he created by mixing a medium grey with a small amount of [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetian_Red']Venetian Red[/URL]. By early 1941, several other ships began using the same camouflage, though no formal testing was done to determine how well it worked. A later refinement of the basic Mountbatten Pink camouflage was the use of a slightly lighter tone of the same colour for the upper structures of the ship. By the end of 1942, however, all vessels of destroyer size and larger had dispensed with Mountbatten Pink, although it is believed that smaller vessels retained this colour until well into 1944. The primary problem with Mountbatten pink was that it stood out around midday, when the sky was no longer pink, and the traditional [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battleship_grey']battleship grey[/URL] was much less visible. The [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Navy']US Navy[/URL] had experimented with a similar shade of paint as well, and at least one ship, the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Winslow_%28DD-359%29']USS [I]Winslow[/I][/URL], received such a paint job. The [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriegsmarine']Kriegsmarine[/URL] likewise experimented with a light pink shade. The Royal Navy prisoner interrogation report of crew rescued from S 147, a [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schnellboot']Schnellboot[/URL] sunk in the English Channel in April 1944, states the boat's overall pink shade was effective."[/QUOTE]
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