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<p>[QUOTE="DanaB, post: 1951926, member: 10739"]Ok, its heavier than I would have thought. That puts it at over 3/4 lbs. The reason I ask is that weight of early jugs matters. When made by a well known jug maker, they were made lighter and the slip of the clay was thinner. Often there were many disputes among the potteries. There weren't that many potteries but if a designer got unhappy he would leave and go to another. And sometimes he couldn't get a job. And would start making jugs out of whatever clay he could find using whatever tools he could scrounge up. Be them crude or not. And some resorted to methods that were less than quality to try and sell their works. These jugs came to be known as fakes. Real potters might use all kinds of things to make their jugs stand out. Not just the design. Some would mix things into the clay to give it a spotted look. The men who would create the fakes, would use coffee grounds mixed into the clay. I don't know what the original potters used. There were many things done to cause oxidation in the clay. And some of the fakes were produced with these attributes. But one thing about the fakes that has been passed down is to be weary of the weight of a jug because if it seems too heavy for its size it's most likely a fake. I myself have managed to purchase a large toby jug even though I prefer miniatures. And I was very excited about this jug because it was dated into the 1750s. And I believe that its probably 1760s. So very close. But the weight is way off. But to be honest, I don't care! Just to own a jug of that time and I think mine does have coffee grounds in the clay! And the clay looks like tigers eye, its spotted! And beautiful! Having coffee grounds certainly shows the period in time that tobys went thru. And I'm thrilled to own it. I paid a pretty penny for it but if it hadn't been a fake, it would have been 3-4 times what I paid and I would have never got to own it! So you have to look at things for what they are. You were given this and other items, so anything you get will be gravy!</p><p><br /></p><p>Ok, given everything I now know. I believe I can give you an estimate on a price you can sell this jug for.</p><p><br /></p><p>So let's recap:</p><p>Made in England </p><p>19th Century</p><p>Handmade</p><p>Early Character Jug because of crazing </p><p>Probably a fake due to weight</p><p><br /></p><p>I would value this jug at around $350.00. You can convert to British pounds. Being handmade and the fact that this is an early character jug is what I'm basing the value on. Even though its probably a fake I still think it's a early piece and has a nice value. I just wish I knew who he was. But I do not know that as I haven't seen him before. </p><p><br /></p><p>Good luck!</p><p>Dana[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DanaB, post: 1951926, member: 10739"]Ok, its heavier than I would have thought. That puts it at over 3/4 lbs. The reason I ask is that weight of early jugs matters. When made by a well known jug maker, they were made lighter and the slip of the clay was thinner. Often there were many disputes among the potteries. There weren't that many potteries but if a designer got unhappy he would leave and go to another. And sometimes he couldn't get a job. And would start making jugs out of whatever clay he could find using whatever tools he could scrounge up. Be them crude or not. And some resorted to methods that were less than quality to try and sell their works. These jugs came to be known as fakes. Real potters might use all kinds of things to make their jugs stand out. Not just the design. Some would mix things into the clay to give it a spotted look. The men who would create the fakes, would use coffee grounds mixed into the clay. I don't know what the original potters used. There were many things done to cause oxidation in the clay. And some of the fakes were produced with these attributes. But one thing about the fakes that has been passed down is to be weary of the weight of a jug because if it seems too heavy for its size it's most likely a fake. I myself have managed to purchase a large toby jug even though I prefer miniatures. And I was very excited about this jug because it was dated into the 1750s. And I believe that its probably 1760s. So very close. But the weight is way off. But to be honest, I don't care! Just to own a jug of that time and I think mine does have coffee grounds in the clay! And the clay looks like tigers eye, its spotted! And beautiful! Having coffee grounds certainly shows the period in time that tobys went thru. And I'm thrilled to own it. I paid a pretty penny for it but if it hadn't been a fake, it would have been 3-4 times what I paid and I would have never got to own it! So you have to look at things for what they are. You were given this and other items, so anything you get will be gravy! Ok, given everything I now know. I believe I can give you an estimate on a price you can sell this jug for. So let's recap: Made in England 19th Century Handmade Early Character Jug because of crazing Probably a fake due to weight I would value this jug at around $350.00. You can convert to British pounds. Being handmade and the fact that this is an early character jug is what I'm basing the value on. Even though its probably a fake I still think it's a early piece and has a nice value. I just wish I knew who he was. But I do not know that as I haven't seen him before. Good luck! Dana[/QUOTE]
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