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<p>[QUOTE="Ownedbybear, post: 1953948, member: 29"]Staffordshire pottery makers didn't use "raw clay" for manufacture. The clay was always cleaned and processed in some way. Heck, even the Romans did that here. If you use impure raw clay you get lovely firing faults and the thing falls apart. </p><p><br /></p><p>Additives were used early on: bone, for example, until we managed to steal the porcelain recipe and methodology from China. </p><p><br /></p><p>Much of the growth of our canal network and later rail was down to the need to distribute fine white china clay mined in Cornwall, for example. Our transport system evolved on the needs of those wanting clay, coal and salt. All integral to manufacture and the foundation of our Industrial Revolution. It's worth reading up on the history of the Black Country and the Five Towns for that, it's fascinating. (I did an O level on all this, a long time back.) </p><p><br /></p><p>It's possible to attribute to a region of the UK - or elsewhere - from clay colours but it is simply not true to say that modern pottery is "entirely different from using raw clay". Ask any studio potter. </p><p><br /></p><p>A refresher course: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pottery" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pottery" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pottery</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Glass Toby or character jugs are uncommon and tend to be later. Whitefriars was the main maker of them, I've several. Avon made copies way later. </p><p><br /></p><p>As to this being a fake, it is what it is, not trying to be anything other than a late 19th C Toby. A thing can only be classified fake if it purports to be other than what it is. The high glaze and the vivid colours, as well as the style are typical of the late 19th. We'd developed much brighter underglazes by then. And of course, hundreds of thousands of Staffordshire made ceramics had not a single mark. Indeed, superb quality stuff like Lowestoft, rare as hen's teeth, wasn't marked. Unless you know the characteristics of a factory, in detail, it can be impossible to atrribute.</p><p><br /></p><p>As to the value, in an antiques centre here, you might get £20, but that's probably optimistic, these are so out of fashion.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ownedbybear, post: 1953948, member: 29"]Staffordshire pottery makers didn't use "raw clay" for manufacture. The clay was always cleaned and processed in some way. Heck, even the Romans did that here. If you use impure raw clay you get lovely firing faults and the thing falls apart. Additives were used early on: bone, for example, until we managed to steal the porcelain recipe and methodology from China. Much of the growth of our canal network and later rail was down to the need to distribute fine white china clay mined in Cornwall, for example. Our transport system evolved on the needs of those wanting clay, coal and salt. All integral to manufacture and the foundation of our Industrial Revolution. It's worth reading up on the history of the Black Country and the Five Towns for that, it's fascinating. (I did an O level on all this, a long time back.) It's possible to attribute to a region of the UK - or elsewhere - from clay colours but it is simply not true to say that modern pottery is "entirely different from using raw clay". Ask any studio potter. A refresher course: [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pottery[/URL] Glass Toby or character jugs are uncommon and tend to be later. Whitefriars was the main maker of them, I've several. Avon made copies way later. As to this being a fake, it is what it is, not trying to be anything other than a late 19th C Toby. A thing can only be classified fake if it purports to be other than what it is. The high glaze and the vivid colours, as well as the style are typical of the late 19th. We'd developed much brighter underglazes by then. And of course, hundreds of thousands of Staffordshire made ceramics had not a single mark. Indeed, superb quality stuff like Lowestoft, rare as hen's teeth, wasn't marked. Unless you know the characteristics of a factory, in detail, it can be impossible to atrribute. As to the value, in an antiques centre here, you might get £20, but that's probably optimistic, these are so out of fashion.[/QUOTE]
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