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<p>[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 10335273, member: 2844"]Pope John XXIII and the so-called "Tramontana theologians" (Tramontana means over the mountains = north of the Alps) intended to modernize the Church and bring back the ethics of early Christianity as well as reach out to other faiths.</p><p>Pope John XXIII called it the "Aggiornamento", bringing the Church up to date. This also meant abolishing celibacy, ordination of women, and acceptance of divorce, among others.</p><p>The switch from Latin to the vernacular (most vernacular languages are non-English<img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=";)" unselectable="on" />), so people could understand what was actually being said, thereby giving them the opportunity for a more profound experience of the faith, was to be one of the other changes. Another important change was a greater input of the then "Third World", which had the majority of Roman Catholics.</p><p><br /></p><p>The Southern European catholics objected strongly to this 'novel' Northern European theological approach. They were joined by most cardinals and bishops from North America and the British Isles.</p><p>As a result only a few of the initial ideas made it to the final declaration. This disappointed the Tramontana (Northern Continental) catholics and other modern catholics, which led to many leaving the institute of the church and seeking other, more grass-roots forms of experiencing and living according to the teachings of Christ. Many Tramontana priests left the priesthood, but remained involved in pastoral work.</p><p><br /></p><p>As an aside:</p><p>One of my professors at the theology faculty I studied at, Walter Goddijn, was an advisor during the Second Vatican Council.</p><p>The Dutch cardinal, bishops and theologians joined Pope John XXIII at the forefront of the Aggiornamento movement, and in many Southern European churches faithful prayed for our heretic Dutch souls to be saved.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=";)" unselectable="on" /> Very sweet of them, but I don't think it was necessary.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie75" alt=":playful:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 10335273, member: 2844"]Pope John XXIII and the so-called "Tramontana theologians" (Tramontana means over the mountains = north of the Alps) intended to modernize the Church and bring back the ethics of early Christianity as well as reach out to other faiths. Pope John XXIII called it the "Aggiornamento", bringing the Church up to date. This also meant abolishing celibacy, ordination of women, and acceptance of divorce, among others. The switch from Latin to the vernacular (most vernacular languages are non-English;)), so people could understand what was actually being said, thereby giving them the opportunity for a more profound experience of the faith, was to be one of the other changes. Another important change was a greater input of the then "Third World", which had the majority of Roman Catholics. The Southern European catholics objected strongly to this 'novel' Northern European theological approach. They were joined by most cardinals and bishops from North America and the British Isles. As a result only a few of the initial ideas made it to the final declaration. This disappointed the Tramontana (Northern Continental) catholics and other modern catholics, which led to many leaving the institute of the church and seeking other, more grass-roots forms of experiencing and living according to the teachings of Christ. Many Tramontana priests left the priesthood, but remained involved in pastoral work. As an aside: One of my professors at the theology faculty I studied at, Walter Goddijn, was an advisor during the Second Vatican Council. The Dutch cardinal, bishops and theologians joined Pope John XXIII at the forefront of the Aggiornamento movement, and in many Southern European churches faithful prayed for our heretic Dutch souls to be saved.;) Very sweet of them, but I don't think it was necessary.:playful:[/QUOTE]
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