Storage Unit Find! Old muzzle loading rifle - is rifle real?

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  1. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    My friend found 2 cool rifles in a storage unit he won at a auction. he buys them for furniture for his 2nd hand furniture store & sells me stuff he can't use cheap.
    So when he showed me these & asked me if I wanted them for $100 I immediately said yes! I knew the military rifle was worth a lot more (I told him if I get over 400 I'll split it with him - turns out it's a french military MAS 49/56!) but the muzzle loader has me stumped! The octagon barrel seems real but has some kind of liner in it? And the little storage thing on the side of the stock (3rd photo) doesn't open.
    Is it a real muzzle loader or a really good copy?
    Thank you for any help!

    COLLECTIBLE RIFLE MUZZLE LOADER RIFLE 1AA.JPG COLLECTIBLE RIFLE MUZZLE LOADER RIFLE 1BAA.JPG COLLECTIBLE RIFLE MUZZLE LOADER RIFLE 1CAA.JPG COLLECTIBLE RIFLE MUZZLE LOADER RIFLE 3AA.JPG COLLECTIBLE RIFLE MUZZLE LOADER RIFLE 4AA.JPG COLLECTIBLE RIFLE MUZZLE LOADER RIFLE 4AAA.JPG COLLECTIBLE RIFLE MUZZLE LOADER RIFLE 5AA.JPG
     
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  2. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    The lock looks like pot metal and I think the patch box is a solid sheet of brass,not sure what's going on with the barrel.
     
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  3. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    This was the other - it's real!

    MAS FRENCH WWII RIFLE 1AA.JPG MAS FRENCH WWII RIFLE 4AAZZ.JPG
     
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  4. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    The first one looks too clean & shiny, so suspect it was used in battle reenactments.
     
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  5. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    IMHO, First one looks like definitely a Repro; The second one the metal parts DO look old, but not so sure about the 'stock'???
     
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  6. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

  7. Mixdenny

    Mixdenny Active Member

    The 49/56 is a desirable collectible rifle. 20 years ago they could be easily found but not anymore. That "ladder" thing that swings up is the grenade launcher sight. The larger round part on the muzzle is the grenade launcher.
     
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  8. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    good call.........beat me to it !! :):)
     
  9. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Thanks all, thanks komokwa - where would I sell the mas; just saw it's not allowed on eBay or Craigslist - and I'mm guessing not on FB marketplace
     
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  10. coreya

    coreya Well-Known Member

    The french rifle would need to be sold thru a ffl or c&r depending where you live or person to person again depending where you live. If in central fl email me:cigar::cigar::cigar:
     
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  11. mmarco102

    mmarco102 Well-Known Member

  12. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    For that matter it's even a question about whether Journey can sell a firearm in his own state, isn't it?. Does he need a license?
     
  13. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    isn't this a antique or collectible?
    I already found out eBay & craigslist are out - I was thinking of trying gunbroker (dot) com but how would I get it there?
    sheesh it's never easy.
    PS - I'm in S. Fla. coreya but I need to find out if I can sell it before I sell it - in case your profile pic is really you!
     
  14. coreya

    coreya Well-Known Member

    In the state of fl you can sell person to person with no problem, I would check the serial # via the states database and then have at it. Delivery is always a problem but you can ship via fed ex in state to an individual. And yes thats me in another life back when there was a small amount of sanity.
     
  15. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    isn't this a antique or collectible?
    no...it's weapon of war !!!

    the shorter and lighter variant, the MAS-49/56, was mass manufactured (275,240 units) and issued to all branches of the French military. Overall, the MAS-49 and 49/56 rifles gained the reputation of being accurate, reliable and easy to maintain in adverse environments.
    Made from 1949 ..... what's antique about it ?
     
  16. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    any rounds in that magazine......if so....squeeze off a few.......for kicks !
     
  17. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    No ammo -
    coreya, my cousin was a motorcycle cop on the beach for years - I loved that Harley he rode!
     
  18. coreya

    coreya Well-Known Member

    knew one of the beach guys, zell hall from way back. Loved my time on motors :cigar::cigar::cigar:
     
  19. Mixdenny

    Mixdenny Active Member

    If there are any guns shows near you just carry it in following any requirements. Take it in a gun case or similar to begin with and the guys at the desk will put tie wraps through the mechanisms. Put a sign on it with a good price and it will sell in five minutes just walking around. I sold mine about 5 years ago for triple what I paid for it in the early 2000s.
     
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  20. mmarco102

    mmarco102 Well-Known Member

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