Stradivari, Stradivarius, Stradivariant...

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by JayBee, Nov 1, 2019.

  1. JayBee

    JayBee Well-Known Member

    EP_violin_01.jpg EP_violin_02.jpg EP_violin_03.jpg EP_violin_04.jpg EP_violin_05.jpg EP_violin_06.jpg EP_violin_01.jpg EP_violin_02.jpg EP_violin_03.jpg EP_violin_04.jpg EP_violin_05.jpg EP_violin_06.jpg Greetings all!

    I mentioned to a friend that I had joined Antiquers when they recently visited.

    They asked for help with a piece that's been in their family for a few generations it seems --- they received it from a Great-uncle; my friends are in their mid 70s early 80s.

    So, here are the pics they sent me after returning home... Any comments appreciated and I now value is often in the eye of the beholder/collector, but feel free to share an opinion on that too. It's written in the label inside that it's a "copie" so we know it's not a Stradivarius... just wondering what it may be worth as a copy...

    ... (If more photos are needed, I can ask them to send more; just let me know. First time making a request and uploading pics in sequence so hopefully this will work...)

    Thank you in advance for any and all feedback!

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  2. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    hi mate

    ive got a similar copie de model

    ive been told mine is a french Caussin school violin circa 1880

    so you might wanna look into that

    valued at £500 - 800
     
  3. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

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    alex webb Well-Known Member

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  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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  6. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    I think he'd mention the label if it wasn't an original of that Geneva guy with his unpronouncable family name.
     
  7. alex webb

    alex webb Well-Known Member

    vidoudez bought the artot strad and then sold it. the label in the artot is thought to say 1722 but vidoudez thought it said 1721. this is the violin model andre rieu bought as a strad because he said it was the best sounding violin ever but it was not a strad.
     
  8. JayBee

    JayBee Well-Known Member

    Thanks, and for that pointer. I'll check them out. My friends know this is not going to bring in any serious cash. I don't even think they want to sell it, because is a family heirloom of sorts. But would be nice to know exactly what it is. :)

     
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  9. JayBee

    JayBee Well-Known Member

    Yup... it's been kicked around quite a bit. At some point when they left India (where they lived for a while) someone even suggested they throw it away because it looked like it had been "picked out of a garbage can," they recalled. Would be fun if it had a good sound and could be given some TLC and end up in the hands of someone who could bring it back to life again. Who knows... :p

     
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  10. JayBee

    JayBee Well-Known Member

    Thanks everyone for the feedback! Much appreciated! :happy:
     
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  11. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    no worries, they should help you out with the info you need

    condition doesn't look that bad, its just been stripped of the hardware needed to play it

    somebody was probably in the process of getting it playable
     
  12. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    i would think antique as well, because the 20th century strad labels usually have a 'made in' on them
     
  13. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    Only a reputable violin shop can tell you what it is worth, and if it is worth doing the necessary work. Violins in general cannot be evaluated online; and the "strad" labels tell you basically nothing. Try https://www.afvbm.org/ for a list of reliable shops in the US; they also have an article about this kind of "Strad" which you might find interesting.
    Nothing in particular strikes me about this violin, other than the need for tuning pegs, a bridge, tailpiece, and strings. No way to tell if the sound-post is still in the right place. The varnish looks pretty basic, not what I'd expect from a high-end instrument. But a good shop could tell you for sure.
     
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