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Message:: [QUOTE="Jeff Drum, post: 2547374, member: 6444"]I tried boiling water or ice on a rag on the outside, with gentle upside down hitting on a carpeted floor, before I posted without effect. When I poured water in, it made it past the marble so I knew it wasn't sealed shut, just stuck in parts. But that made me nervous about putting in oil, since I figured it would be stuck there once I put it in, whereas the water eventually dries. I don't think superglue would work since the marble is round and not a good superglue surface, but did consider epoxy. Worst case would have been drilling a hole in the marble, but that would have been hard with the tools I have and probably not worth the time commitment. Before doing any of that I looked through my scrap metal and found an old stainless steel wiper blade flange, and figured it was worth flattening that and seeing if it could get past the marble in any spot (since I knew water made it past and it was an old imperfect marble). I was very surprised when it actually worked! In one spot the steel slid past the marble and dislodged it. BTW, the metal band at top of vase is actually glass with gold gilding on it, not an attached piece of metal. So now the marble is out - but what do I have? Is there consensus it is french? Time period? Does it have any value?[ATTACH=full]269576[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]269578[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]269579[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]269580[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]