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<p>[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 4123935, member: 2844"]It is beautiful, Herbert, but we would need to see much more. The back, as komo said, but also the borders and details of the weave.</p><p><br /></p><p>Can you tell us something about the provenance?</p><p>It could be Flemish, probably made for a Spanish family with a colonial or maritime trade connection. You can imagine how grand the place was where it hung together with other tapestries.</p><p><br /></p><p>The colours of the crest have faded. The 17th century was a period of experimenting with new dyes, not always succesfully. I remember they used one dye that faded more than others, I can't recall which colour it was though. Seeing the back could help, since it was not exposed to daylight.</p><p>Finding the colour, and hopefully getting a better idea of the design of the crest, will also help find the family crest.</p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=1476]@Debora[/USER] , do you have any idea which family would have used the motto 'Sus que de que ferre'?</p><p><br /></p><p>The designs were usually made by well-known painters of the day.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.antiquers.com/attachments/img_20210528_134224_resized_20210601_073239794-jpg.331031/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 4123935, member: 2844"]It is beautiful, Herbert, but we would need to see much more. The back, as komo said, but also the borders and details of the weave. Can you tell us something about the provenance? It could be Flemish, probably made for a Spanish family with a colonial or maritime trade connection. You can imagine how grand the place was where it hung together with other tapestries. The colours of the crest have faded. The 17th century was a period of experimenting with new dyes, not always succesfully. I remember they used one dye that faded more than others, I can't recall which colour it was though. Seeing the back could help, since it was not exposed to daylight. Finding the colour, and hopefully getting a better idea of the design of the crest, will also help find the family crest. [USER=1476]@Debora[/USER] , do you have any idea which family would have used the motto 'Sus que de que ferre'? The designs were usually made by well-known painters of the day. [IMG]https://www.antiquers.com/attachments/img_20210528_134224_resized_20210601_073239794-jpg.331031/[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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