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<p>[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 4123985, member: 2844"]Wonderful, Debora.</p><p><br /></p><p>The colours don't seem to be intact though, it is a darker photo, which suggests more definition.</p><p><br /></p><p>I can understand why they can't say that for sure. The Grimaldi coat of arms has red lozenge shapes on a white field. If these lozenge shapes were once red, it would be strange that they faded when the other reds in the tapestry didn't. And what about the motifs in the white lozenges?</p><p>The eagle is connected with the Grimaldis, though generally not shown in the top half of the coat of arms. Maybe another, lesser known branch of the family?</p><p><br /></p><p>The Grimaldis of Genoa are the same as the Grimaldis of Monaco, btw. Their motto is 'Deo Juvante', not 'Sus que de que ferre'. It could have changed over the centuries, but that rarely happens.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.startpage.com/av/proxy-image?piurl=https%3A%2F%2Fencrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3AANd9GcRhmDxqokRYNz3Nj7zWK1O8tmwwt4-DQi_-2hJxref1f4yi_Ytf%26s&sp=1622554461Te81e14833e277b235857571dedcddb93c299b9b5080d5758d4901d8c680769c2" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 4123985, member: 2844"]Wonderful, Debora. The colours don't seem to be intact though, it is a darker photo, which suggests more definition. I can understand why they can't say that for sure. The Grimaldi coat of arms has red lozenge shapes on a white field. If these lozenge shapes were once red, it would be strange that they faded when the other reds in the tapestry didn't. And what about the motifs in the white lozenges? The eagle is connected with the Grimaldis, though generally not shown in the top half of the coat of arms. Maybe another, lesser known branch of the family? The Grimaldis of Genoa are the same as the Grimaldis of Monaco, btw. Their motto is 'Deo Juvante', not 'Sus que de que ferre'. It could have changed over the centuries, but that rarely happens. [IMG]https://www.startpage.com/av/proxy-image?piurl=https%3A%2F%2Fencrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3AANd9GcRhmDxqokRYNz3Nj7zWK1O8tmwwt4-DQi_-2hJxref1f4yi_Ytf%26s&sp=1622554461Te81e14833e277b235857571dedcddb93c299b9b5080d5758d4901d8c680769c2[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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