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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;TallCakes, post: 11406027, member: 107&quot;]Replacements can sometime create confusion in the naming of makers and patterns. Tiffin was a part of U.S. Glass located in Tiffin, Ohio and changed names thru the years. Technically Tiffin and Franciscan should be listed separately to avoid confusion.</p><p><br /></p><p>Your set could be either Tiffin or Franciscan &#039;Carillon&#039;.&nbsp; It&#039;s a pressed pattern with cut motif.</p><p>Franciscan either made new stock using the Tiffin #17646 stem with the &#039;Carillon&#039; cutting or more likely sold old stock with their Franciscan sticker. I couldn&#039;t find an ad or catalog for the Franciscan cutting named &#039;Carillon&#039; but did locate an old listing on WP with a Franciscan sticker:</p><p><a href="https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/tiffin-franciscan-carillon-water-4899545419" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/tiffin-franciscan-carillon-water-4899545419" rel="nofollow">2 Tiffin Franciscan Carillon Water Goblets 6 1/2&#039;&#039; | #4899545419</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]542747[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>&#039;Carillon&#039; with Tiffin sticker:</p><p><a href="https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/tiffin-carillon-crystal-juice-glass-2028692840" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/tiffin-carillon-crystal-juice-glass-2028692840" rel="nofollow">Tiffin Carillon Crystal Juice Glass Unused 4.75&quot; | #2028692840</a></p><p><br /></p><p>here&#039;s a bit of info on Tiffin history and other comparisons for their #17646 stem.</p><p><br /></p><p>Tiffin history</p><p><a href="https://chataboutdg.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=5807" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://chataboutdg.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=5807" rel="nofollow">Glass Etch and Pattern Gallery</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Tiffin named the plain undecorated stem #17646 stem &#039;Kent&#039;</p><p><a href="https://chataboutdg.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=5303" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://chataboutdg.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=5303" rel="nofollow">Glass Etch and Pattern Gallery</a></p><p><br /></p><p>the same stem with a cut leaf motif was named &#039;Lyndley&#039;</p><p><a href="https://chataboutdg.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=5607" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://chataboutdg.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=5607" rel="nofollow">Glass Etch and Pattern Gallery</a></p><p>[ATTACH=full]542745[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]542746[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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