Log in or Sign up
Antiques Board
Home
Forums
>
Antique Forums
>
Ephemera and Photographs
>
Tintype photos and others
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="Figtree3, post: 332818, member: 33"]Research follows:</p><p>Found an Ancestry page that indicates that a very similar photo is of B. F. Spilman, the minister. Says the photo is from History of the Presbyterian Church in Illinois. There is a poor scan of the image on page 22 of the Google version of this book:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=ts4NlwBrkuEC&q=spilman#v=snippet&q=spilman&f=false" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://books.google.com/books?id=ts4NlwBrkuEC&q=spilman#v=snippet&q=spilman&f=false" rel="nofollow">https://books.google.com/books?id=ts4NlwBrkuEC&q=spilman#v=snippet&q=spilman&f=false</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The image is clearer in the scan posted on Ancestry.ca:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://search.ancestry.ca/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=seorecords&gsfn=Benjamin&gsln=Spilman&msbdy=&msbpn__ftp=&msddy=&msdpn__ftp=Harrodsburg%2C+Kentucky%2C+USA&cpxt=0&catBucket=p&uidh=000&cp=0" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://search.ancestry.ca/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=seorecords&gsfn=Benjamin&gsln=Spilman&msbdy=&msbpn__ftp=&msddy=&msdpn__ftp=Harrodsburg%2C+Kentucky%2C+USA&cpxt=0&catBucket=p&uidh=000&cp=0" rel="nofollow">https://search.ancestry.ca/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=seorecords&gsfn=Benjamin&gsln=Spilman&msbdy=&msbpn__ftp=&msddy=&msdpn__ftp=Harrodsburg,+Kentucky,+USA&cpxt=0&catBucket=p&uidh=000&cp=0</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Since the Reverend died in 1859, I think it's likely that the CDV photo was printed after his death as sort of a memorial. As I mentioned earlier, it appears to be a copy of an older photo.</p><p><br /></p><p>So I think the photo is of the minister. However, the photographer might well have been a relative of his. Not sure whether he was a son or not. I didn't really read the extensive biography of him in the first link above, but did notice mention of only one son. His Find A Grave entry also lists only one son. That is not a definitive source but I notice the reverend also had a lot of siblings. If the photographer wasn't his son he might have been a nephew. The photographer who applied for the patent worked in Harrodsburg, Kentucky, and the patent was applied for in 1880.</p><p><br /></p><p>I found the photographer in Find A Grave... born in 1846, died in 1906. Father was C. H. Spilman, according to the obituary. <a href="https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/55447042/benjamin-f.-spilman" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/55447042/benjamin-f.-spilman" rel="nofollow">https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/55447042/benjamin-f.-spilman</a></p><p><br /></p><p>So, the photographer was in his early to mid-20s when the CDV was published by a studio in Cincinnati. (I do not know when he took up photography.) I currently don't see a connection between this photographer and that studio. But the photo is clearly of the Reverend B. F. Spilman, who died in 1859 when the younger B. F. Spilman was 13 years old.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is possible that the younger Spilman could transfer older photos to new formats. Many photographers would do that. However, I don't have enough information to know whether Spilman was ever connected with that studio in Cincinnati. And since the photo is clearly of the Reverend B. F. Spilman, I think the simplest explanation is the one to go with... that the name written on the card is a caption identifying who was in the photo.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Figtree3, post: 332818, member: 33"]Research follows: Found an Ancestry page that indicates that a very similar photo is of B. F. Spilman, the minister. Says the photo is from History of the Presbyterian Church in Illinois. There is a poor scan of the image on page 22 of the Google version of this book: [URL]https://books.google.com/books?id=ts4NlwBrkuEC&q=spilman#v=snippet&q=spilman&f=false[/URL] The image is clearer in the scan posted on Ancestry.ca: [URL]https://search.ancestry.ca/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=seorecords&gsfn=Benjamin&gsln=Spilman&msbdy=&msbpn__ftp=&msddy=&msdpn__ftp=Harrodsburg%2C+Kentucky%2C+USA&cpxt=0&catBucket=p&uidh=000&cp=0[/URL] Since the Reverend died in 1859, I think it's likely that the CDV photo was printed after his death as sort of a memorial. As I mentioned earlier, it appears to be a copy of an older photo. So I think the photo is of the minister. However, the photographer might well have been a relative of his. Not sure whether he was a son or not. I didn't really read the extensive biography of him in the first link above, but did notice mention of only one son. His Find A Grave entry also lists only one son. That is not a definitive source but I notice the reverend also had a lot of siblings. If the photographer wasn't his son he might have been a nephew. The photographer who applied for the patent worked in Harrodsburg, Kentucky, and the patent was applied for in 1880. I found the photographer in Find A Grave... born in 1846, died in 1906. Father was C. H. Spilman, according to the obituary. [URL]https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/55447042/benjamin-f.-spilman[/URL] So, the photographer was in his early to mid-20s when the CDV was published by a studio in Cincinnati. (I do not know when he took up photography.) I currently don't see a connection between this photographer and that studio. But the photo is clearly of the Reverend B. F. Spilman, who died in 1859 when the younger B. F. Spilman was 13 years old. It is possible that the younger Spilman could transfer older photos to new formats. Many photographers would do that. However, I don't have enough information to know whether Spilman was ever connected with that studio in Cincinnati. And since the photo is clearly of the Reverend B. F. Spilman, I think the simplest explanation is the one to go with... that the name written on the card is a caption identifying who was in the photo.[/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Antiques Board
Home
Forums
>
Antique Forums
>
Ephemera and Photographs
>
Tintype photos and others
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Registered Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...