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<p>[QUOTE="Joe in PA, post: 12100555, member: 12740"]Wow, just found out an ebay or other seller can be fined $2500.00 for selling an incandescent bulb (some exemptions) to someone in California - below is from AI but seems to be on target - but verify the below before relying on it </p><p><br /></p><p>Under California Title 20, retailers, manufacturers, and distributors can face administrative civil penalties of up to $2,500 per unit for selling or offering non-compliant light bulbs for sale in the state. [<a href="https://www.rila.org/blog/2021/03/title-20-energy-efficiency-regulations-in-ca" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.rila.org/blog/2021/03/title-20-energy-efficiency-regulations-in-ca" rel="nofollow">1</a>, <a href="https://www.bdlaw.com/publications/californias-energy-commission-reaches-costly-settlements-over-consumer-product-efficiency-standards/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.bdlaw.com/publications/californias-energy-commission-reaches-costly-settlements-over-consumer-product-efficiency-standards/" rel="nofollow">2</a>]</p><p>These regulations are part of the <a href="https://www.energy.ca.gov/programs-and-topics/programs/appliance-efficiency-program-outreach-and-education/state-regulated" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.energy.ca.gov/programs-and-topics/programs/appliance-efficiency-program-outreach-and-education/state-regulated" rel="nofollow">California Energy Commission (CEC)</a> Appliance Efficiency Program, which enforces strict energy efficiency standards for "General Service Lamps". [<a href="https://www.energy.ca.gov/programs-and-topics/programs/appliance-efficiency-program-outreach-and-education/state-regulated" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.energy.ca.gov/programs-and-topics/programs/appliance-efficiency-program-outreach-and-education/state-regulated" rel="nofollow">1</a>, <a href="https://www.satco.com/ca-title-20" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.satco.com/ca-title-20" rel="nofollow">2</a>, <a href="https://www.bdlaw.com/publications/californias-energy-commission-reaches-costly-settlements-over-consumer-product-efficiency-standards/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.bdlaw.com/publications/californias-energy-commission-reaches-costly-settlements-over-consumer-product-efficiency-standards/" rel="nofollow">3</a>, <a href="https://www.nationalartcraft.com/Title20.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.nationalartcraft.com/Title20.htm" rel="nofollow">4</a>]</p><p>Key Details of Title 20 Enforcement</p><ul> <li>Per-Unit Fines: While the statutory maximum is $2,500 per violation (per bulb), the CEC often considers factors like the seriousness of the violation and efforts to correct it when determining the final penalty.</li> <li>Broad Compliance Requirement: Any person in the sales chain—including out-of-state online retailers—is responsible for ensuring bulbs are listed in the <a href="https://cacertappliances.energy.ca.gov/Pages/ApplianceSearch.aspx" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://cacertappliances.energy.ca.gov/Pages/ApplianceSearch.aspx" rel="nofollow">Modernized Appliance Efficiency Database System (MAEDbS)</a> before selling them to California consumers.</li> <li>Efficacy Standards: Most standard incandescent bulbs are banned because they fail to meet the minimum requirement of 45 lumens per watt (LPW). Typical incandescents only produce 15 to 20 LPW.</li> <li>Exemptions: Certain specialty bulbs, such as appliance bulbs (for ovens or refrigerators) and some decorative lamps, remain exempt from these specific Title 20 restrictions. [<a href="https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=bc5a501e-b457-4dbd-b4b2-74e259c6b2b7" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=bc5a501e-b457-4dbd-b4b2-74e259c6b2b7" rel="nofollow">1</a>, <a href="https://www.energy.ca.gov/programs-and-topics/programs/appliance-efficiency-program-outreach-and-education/state-regulated" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.energy.ca.gov/programs-and-topics/programs/appliance-efficiency-program-outreach-and-education/state-regulated" rel="nofollow">2</a>, <a href="https://www.homepreservationmanual.com/california-light-bulb-law-takes-effect-1-1-20/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.homepreservationmanual.com/california-light-bulb-law-takes-effect-1-1-20/" rel="nofollow">3</a>, <a href="https://insights.regencysupply.com/title-20-explained-californias-energy-efficiency-standards-for-lighting" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://insights.regencysupply.com/title-20-explained-californias-energy-efficiency-standards-for-lighting" rel="nofollow">4</a>, <a href="https://www.subzero-wolf.com/assistance/answers/brandless/california-light-bulb-ban" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.subzero-wolf.com/assistance/answers/brandless/california-light-bulb-ban" rel="nofollow">5</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDiFpsAuMKM" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDiFpsAuMKM" rel="nofollow">6</a>, <a href="https://www.rila.org/blog/2021/03/title-20-energy-efficiency-regulations-in-ca" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.rila.org/blog/2021/03/title-20-energy-efficiency-regulations-in-ca" rel="nofollow">7</a>, <a href="https://www.bdlaw.com/publications/californias-energy-commission-reaches-costly-settlements-over-consumer-product-efficiency-standards/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.bdlaw.com/publications/californias-energy-commission-reaches-costly-settlements-over-consumer-product-efficiency-standards/" rel="nofollow">8</a>]</li> </ul><p>Because of the high potential for automated enforcement and heavy fines, many online marketplaces and individual sellers use <a href="https://www.waveformlighting.com/home-residential/why-cant-these-light-bulbs-ship-to-california-an-overview-of-california-energy-commissions-title-20" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.waveformlighting.com/home-residential/why-cant-these-light-bulbs-ship-to-california-an-overview-of-california-energy-commissions-title-20" rel="nofollow">shipping restrictions</a> to prevent any non-compliant lighting products from being delivered to California addresses[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Joe in PA, post: 12100555, member: 12740"]Wow, just found out an ebay or other seller can be fined $2500.00 for selling an incandescent bulb (some exemptions) to someone in California - below is from AI but seems to be on target - but verify the below before relying on it Under California Title 20, retailers, manufacturers, and distributors can face administrative civil penalties of up to $2,500 per unit for selling or offering non-compliant light bulbs for sale in the state. [[URL='https://www.rila.org/blog/2021/03/title-20-energy-efficiency-regulations-in-ca']1[/URL], [URL='https://www.bdlaw.com/publications/californias-energy-commission-reaches-costly-settlements-over-consumer-product-efficiency-standards/']2[/URL]] These regulations are part of the [URL='https://www.energy.ca.gov/programs-and-topics/programs/appliance-efficiency-program-outreach-and-education/state-regulated']California Energy Commission (CEC)[/URL] Appliance Efficiency Program, which enforces strict energy efficiency standards for "General Service Lamps". [[URL='https://www.energy.ca.gov/programs-and-topics/programs/appliance-efficiency-program-outreach-and-education/state-regulated']1[/URL], [URL='https://www.satco.com/ca-title-20']2[/URL], [URL='https://www.bdlaw.com/publications/californias-energy-commission-reaches-costly-settlements-over-consumer-product-efficiency-standards/']3[/URL], [URL='https://www.nationalartcraft.com/Title20.htm']4[/URL]] Key Details of Title 20 Enforcement [LIST] [*]Per-Unit Fines: While the statutory maximum is $2,500 per violation (per bulb), the CEC often considers factors like the seriousness of the violation and efforts to correct it when determining the final penalty. [*]Broad Compliance Requirement: Any person in the sales chain—including out-of-state online retailers—is responsible for ensuring bulbs are listed in the [URL='https://cacertappliances.energy.ca.gov/Pages/ApplianceSearch.aspx']Modernized Appliance Efficiency Database System (MAEDbS)[/URL] before selling them to California consumers. [*]Efficacy Standards: Most standard incandescent bulbs are banned because they fail to meet the minimum requirement of 45 lumens per watt (LPW). Typical incandescents only produce 15 to 20 LPW. [*]Exemptions: Certain specialty bulbs, such as appliance bulbs (for ovens or refrigerators) and some decorative lamps, remain exempt from these specific Title 20 restrictions. [[URL='https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=bc5a501e-b457-4dbd-b4b2-74e259c6b2b7']1[/URL], [URL='https://www.energy.ca.gov/programs-and-topics/programs/appliance-efficiency-program-outreach-and-education/state-regulated']2[/URL], [URL='https://www.homepreservationmanual.com/california-light-bulb-law-takes-effect-1-1-20/']3[/URL], [URL='https://insights.regencysupply.com/title-20-explained-californias-energy-efficiency-standards-for-lighting']4[/URL], [URL='https://www.subzero-wolf.com/assistance/answers/brandless/california-light-bulb-ban']5[/URL], [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDiFpsAuMKM']6[/URL], [URL='https://www.rila.org/blog/2021/03/title-20-energy-efficiency-regulations-in-ca']7[/URL], [URL='https://www.bdlaw.com/publications/californias-energy-commission-reaches-costly-settlements-over-consumer-product-efficiency-standards/']8[/URL]] [/LIST] Because of the high potential for automated enforcement and heavy fines, many online marketplaces and individual sellers use [URL='https://www.waveformlighting.com/home-residential/why-cant-these-light-bulbs-ship-to-california-an-overview-of-california-energy-commissions-title-20']shipping restrictions[/URL] to prevent any non-compliant lighting products from being delivered to California addresses[/QUOTE]
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