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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;tagsale_notes, post: 13148887, member: 115485&quot;][USER=115377]@cmetzbower[/USER] this thread already has three good answers to &quot;where is the catalog&quot; and I can&#039;t beat any of them, so let me come at it from the other end. Instead of hunting the paper, I pulled what has actually come to market wearing a T&amp;V mark in the last 90 days. eBay sold listings, not asking prices, 37 closed sales across two searches, dates on everything so you can check me instead of taking my word for it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Shapes that actually surfaced in those 90 days: dinner plate, 9.5 inch plate, 11.5 inch handled cabinet plate, 7 inch dessert plate, salad plate, 7.5 inch soup bowl, fish plates as a set of six, oyster plate, 15 3/4 inch oval platter, large tray, punch bowl with its own stand at 14.25 inches, footed bowl, lidded biscuit jar, celery dish, mayonnaise bowl with attached underplate, cake plate, teacup and saucer, full tea set, creamer, sugar bowl, pitcher, candlesticks, and one cup listed as a lady&#039;s spittoon. So the blank line ran well past a 12 place dinner service, and the smaller versions of your octagonal platter that you already found fit right in with that.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now the part I think actually answers your question, and it fell out of the listings rather than any reference book. Two rows:</p><p><br /></p><p>Tressemanes &amp; Vogt Limoges Florida Oranges creamer &quot;for Greenleaf &amp; Crosby&quot;, sold 18 Aug 2026, $69.99, with the matching sugar bowl sold 20 Aug 2026, $24.99. Greenleaf &amp; Crosby was a Jacksonville jeweler, not a pottery.</p><p><br /></p><p>T&amp;V Limoges France &quot;Charles R. Lynde&quot; ivory and gold salad plates, lot, sold 14 Sep 2026, $9.99 at auction. Lynde was a decorating house.</p><p><br /></p><p>That lines up exactly with what ola402 and dgbjwc already told you. A lot of T&amp;V left Limoges as whiteware and somebody else put the decoration on to a retailer&#039;s order. If TRV193 is one of those, there never was a T&amp;V catalog page for it, because T&amp;V did not issue it. The set composition was whatever the retailer or the decorating firm chose to buy in blanks that season, which is precisely why you keep finding your shapes in other patterns and nothing that tells you which shapes carried yours. It would also explain three different backstamps sitting on one set.</p><p><br /></p><p>One thread worth pulling. I saw &quot;Limoges France T &amp; V Gold Greek Key Rim Dinner Plate No.9188&quot; sell as a set on 22 Jul 2026 for $149.99. That number is on the piece. If any of yours carry a painted or stamped number beside the mark, that is a decorator or pattern number and it is far more searchable than TRV193, which is only Replacements&#039; own filing code and will never turn up on a period document.</p><p><br /></p><p>On the transfers plan, since that one costs real money: decorated T&amp;V ran a median of about $49 across those 90 days, and plain blanks are cheap. A set of T&amp;V dinner plates in white with gold trim closed 11 Sep 2026 at $24.99, a white and gold cake plate 24 Jun 2026 at $22, and that ivory and gold salad plate lot 14 Sep 2026 at $9.99. Buying period T&amp;V blanks and decorating those may come out ahead of cutting molds, and you would have real T&amp;V bodies under your transfers, which matters a lot if the set is ever appraised.</p><p><br /></p><p>Post the marks with any numbers next to them and I will run those exact strings and put back whatever comes out.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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