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<p>[QUOTE="cmetzbower, post: 13149816, member: 115377"]Thank you! From what I’ve learned so far, I don’t expect to find a T&V catalog or advertisements. However, since Vogt & Dose was the exclusive United States importer for T&V, I do hope to find some kind of Vogt & Dose product list or sales records but I’m doubtful. All of those records would have been on paper and when the business didn’t need them anymore, would probably have destroyed them. </p><p><br /></p><p>The marker’s marks I posted above are the only marks on the back of the pieces. I went over every inch of the backside of all the pieces and there’s nothing else. I’m wondering if the pieces that have the retailer’s mark stamped on the back were more limited and specialized vs. those sold at large retail department stores or from catalogs. i.e. those with the retailer mark were special ordered at a higher cost vs. those sold in department stores and catalogs where higher volume of product was needed.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think Vogt & Dose imported blanks and resold them to the decorators. I found a book called “Rough Notes on Pottery” published in 1896 that had examples of trade marks and advertisements from some of the importers. There was one for Vogt & Dose that had the line, “We carry the largest assortment in New York of French White China for Amateur Decorators, including novelties from all the principal manufactories”. I believe “French White China” refers to undecorated porcelain china but I could be wrong. Given what you said in your post, I wonder if the final retailer purchased the blanks through a decorator or decorated the china themselves. I know some china has the retailer’s mark stamped on the back along with the marker’s mark. </p><p><br /></p><p>One interesting thing I did find while searching for old records is several copies of the trade journal, “Crockery and Glass Journal” from 1911 and 1912 that had a list of who in New York imported what from where, but it was in general terms. For example, in the list of imports from Antwerp, Vogt & Dose is listed as having imported 15 packages of chinaware. It’s interesting how even though all this took place around 100yrs ago, information is so hard to find. The digital age has shrunk our world more than we will ever realize.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="cmetzbower, post: 13149816, member: 115377"]Thank you! From what I’ve learned so far, I don’t expect to find a T&V catalog or advertisements. However, since Vogt & Dose was the exclusive United States importer for T&V, I do hope to find some kind of Vogt & Dose product list or sales records but I’m doubtful. All of those records would have been on paper and when the business didn’t need them anymore, would probably have destroyed them. The marker’s marks I posted above are the only marks on the back of the pieces. I went over every inch of the backside of all the pieces and there’s nothing else. I’m wondering if the pieces that have the retailer’s mark stamped on the back were more limited and specialized vs. those sold at large retail department stores or from catalogs. i.e. those with the retailer mark were special ordered at a higher cost vs. those sold in department stores and catalogs where higher volume of product was needed. I think Vogt & Dose imported blanks and resold them to the decorators. I found a book called “Rough Notes on Pottery” published in 1896 that had examples of trade marks and advertisements from some of the importers. There was one for Vogt & Dose that had the line, “We carry the largest assortment in New York of French White China for Amateur Decorators, including novelties from all the principal manufactories”. I believe “French White China” refers to undecorated porcelain china but I could be wrong. Given what you said in your post, I wonder if the final retailer purchased the blanks through a decorator or decorated the china themselves. I know some china has the retailer’s mark stamped on the back along with the marker’s mark. One interesting thing I did find while searching for old records is several copies of the trade journal, “Crockery and Glass Journal” from 1911 and 1912 that had a list of who in New York imported what from where, but it was in general terms. For example, in the list of imports from Antwerp, Vogt & Dose is listed as having imported 15 packages of chinaware. It’s interesting how even though all this took place around 100yrs ago, information is so hard to find. The digital age has shrunk our world more than we will ever realize.[/QUOTE]
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