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<p>[QUOTE="midelburgo, post: 468271, member: 9635"]Hello all. This is my first post. I am actually a "silver" guy but at this moment I am going through an "aesthetics period" crisis and I bought a little pottery.</p><p><br /></p><p>Today I got what seems a Doulton japanesque hand-painted teaset, with unusual markings.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]159832[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]159833[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I have seen those marks before in several pieces by John Grinsell of Birmingham, usually ice buckets, biscuit barrels or ale jugs with a coopered body of oak and silver plate and inserts of (marked) china. From the silver parts I would say they date from about 1875-1878. The cupido is also the mark of Grinsell silver plate. I could find only another piece using "semper paratus" and "Doulton" on google, an ice bucket of similar decoration to my teaset. The three pieces of the teaset have a little silver at the rims, but it is unmarked.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]159839[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]159840[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]159841[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]159842[/ATTACH]</p><p>Now the funny part is when I found on the creamer a mark similar to that of Hannah Barlow (one hour ago I did not even know who Hannah Barlow was). Not incised but painted. And with a less flowery H (no pictures yet sorry I have only the sellers and he did not notice that mark). Now these are flowers in a Satsuma style, which supossedly were not made by Hannah after 1873. If the mark is real, could this mean the teaset was painted painted between 1871 and 1873?</p><p><br /></p><p>Further I found a similar teaset on an auction site, labelled as Minton (I do not see marks there) and designed by Christopher Dresser... which is becoming typical.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]159836[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]159837[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Any suggestion is wellcome. Please be kind if I said something weird, I am out of my field. Thank you.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="midelburgo, post: 468271, member: 9635"]Hello all. This is my first post. I am actually a "silver" guy but at this moment I am going through an "aesthetics period" crisis and I bought a little pottery. Today I got what seems a Doulton japanesque hand-painted teaset, with unusual markings. [ATTACH=full]159832[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]159833[/ATTACH] I have seen those marks before in several pieces by John Grinsell of Birmingham, usually ice buckets, biscuit barrels or ale jugs with a coopered body of oak and silver plate and inserts of (marked) china. From the silver parts I would say they date from about 1875-1878. The cupido is also the mark of Grinsell silver plate. I could find only another piece using "semper paratus" and "Doulton" on google, an ice bucket of similar decoration to my teaset. The three pieces of the teaset have a little silver at the rims, but it is unmarked. [ATTACH=full]159839[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]159840[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]159841[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]159842[/ATTACH] Now the funny part is when I found on the creamer a mark similar to that of Hannah Barlow (one hour ago I did not even know who Hannah Barlow was). Not incised but painted. And with a less flowery H (no pictures yet sorry I have only the sellers and he did not notice that mark). Now these are flowers in a Satsuma style, which supossedly were not made by Hannah after 1873. If the mark is real, could this mean the teaset was painted painted between 1871 and 1873? Further I found a similar teaset on an auction site, labelled as Minton (I do not see marks there) and designed by Christopher Dresser... which is becoming typical. [ATTACH=full]159836[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]159837[/ATTACH] Any suggestion is wellcome. Please be kind if I said something weird, I am out of my field. Thank you.[/QUOTE]
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