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<p>[QUOTE="Jeff Drum, post: 10271805, member: 6444"]Warning: I picked up the Decanter book today, so I have pictures to share!</p><p><br /></p><p>First off about color, McConnell says in his book’s Reproduction section: “Differentiating between old and new can be difficult .. and some makers even tried to replicate the greyish hue of early glass”. So this one test is not sufficient any more than the amount of wear. But both are good indications, and both are something you want to find in authentic glass. From the one pic shown the color doesn’t look right to me for early lead crystal, but as I said that could be the pic, so inconclusive.</p><p><br /></p><p>Second, I am still very bothered by lack of wear, though you are willing to excuse that.</p><p><br /></p><p>Third, I am bothered by the lack of polished pontil on the base, instead having a base with deeply cut prisms. Deep cut base is typical from Victorian through reproductions and modern ware, but unusual on Georgian work (perusing his book shows that). So it is possible, just as a lack of wear is possible, but again unusual and out of the ordinary (for Georgian period).</p><p><br /></p><p>Fourth, from the pic we have it is impossible to say anything about how clean and clear the glass is, or whether it includes the occasional air bubbles and grit we expect to see. Personally I would not be willing to make a definitive conclusion without checking that.</p><p><br /></p><p>Finally you said the cut looks right. And here again I disagree. Or at any rate the style does not seem consistent with the examples he has in his book FOR THAT TIME PERIOD. I think we can agree that the OP example is a Cylinder (Nelson) shape decanter. As McConnell writes: “[cylinder shape] gradually gaining in popularity, the cylinder replaced the Prussian as the most fashionable form c1825-40”. He then shows examples of cylinder shape from the Georgian period, very different than OPs - see two pics below (and also note the pontil bases):</p><p>[ATTACH=full]514970[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]514971[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jeff Drum, post: 10271805, member: 6444"]Warning: I picked up the Decanter book today, so I have pictures to share! First off about color, McConnell says in his book’s Reproduction section: “Differentiating between old and new can be difficult .. and some makers even tried to replicate the greyish hue of early glass”. So this one test is not sufficient any more than the amount of wear. But both are good indications, and both are something you want to find in authentic glass. From the one pic shown the color doesn’t look right to me for early lead crystal, but as I said that could be the pic, so inconclusive. Second, I am still very bothered by lack of wear, though you are willing to excuse that. Third, I am bothered by the lack of polished pontil on the base, instead having a base with deeply cut prisms. Deep cut base is typical from Victorian through reproductions and modern ware, but unusual on Georgian work (perusing his book shows that). So it is possible, just as a lack of wear is possible, but again unusual and out of the ordinary (for Georgian period). Fourth, from the pic we have it is impossible to say anything about how clean and clear the glass is, or whether it includes the occasional air bubbles and grit we expect to see. Personally I would not be willing to make a definitive conclusion without checking that. Finally you said the cut looks right. And here again I disagree. Or at any rate the style does not seem consistent with the examples he has in his book FOR THAT TIME PERIOD. I think we can agree that the OP example is a Cylinder (Nelson) shape decanter. As McConnell writes: “[cylinder shape] gradually gaining in popularity, the cylinder replaced the Prussian as the most fashionable form c1825-40”. He then shows examples of cylinder shape from the Georgian period, very different than OPs - see two pics below (and also note the pontil bases): [ATTACH=full]514970[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]514971[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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