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<p>[QUOTE="komokwa, post: 252461, member: 301"]Normally I'd be all over this...but.....I'm not an expert....& there seem to be several models....made in different locations....some cavalry , some naval.....and many reproductions...</p><p><br /></p><p>I'd like to see some markings on the guard....or at the base of the blade.</p><p>I'm not saying it isn't authentic......but there's a way to go before proving that inscription.</p><p><br /></p><p>That are several good dealers who may want a look at it.....but there seem to be many swords of this ilk on the web .</p><p><br /></p><p>From Faganarms....</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948c.jpg?v=1440772272" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948c.jpg?v=1440772272" rel="nofollow"> </a></p><p><a href="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948b.jpg?v=1440772272" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948b.jpg?v=1440772272" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948b_medium.jpg?v=1440772272" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </a></p><p><a href="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948d.jpg?v=1440772272" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948d.jpg?v=1440772272" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948d_medium.jpg?v=1440772272" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </a></p><p><a href="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948a.jpg?v=1440772272" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948a.jpg?v=1440772272" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948a_medium.jpg?v=1440772272" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </a></p><p><a href="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948e.jpg?v=1440772272" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948e.jpg?v=1440772272" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948e_medium.jpg?v=1440772272" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </a></p><p><a href="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948f.jpg?v=1440772272" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948f.jpg?v=1440772272" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948f_medium.jpg?v=1440772272" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </a></p><p><a href="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948g.jpg?v=1440772272" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948g.jpg?v=1440772272" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948g_medium.jpg?v=1440772272" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </a></p><p><br /></p><p>Napoleonic period, model AN IX, adopted in 1812, the year of the unsuccessful invasion of Russia. One piece bronze hilt with ribbed grip. The knuckle bow with ordnance mark and cross guard with issue number. 23 1/2” wedge section blade with remnants of cursive Napoleonic arsenal markings, polished off and surcharged with <i>G M & Cie</i>. The forte marked <i>BERNGASTELL AINE & Cie</i>. Both markings are surcharges by makers or retailers, applied after the sword was refurbished following capture upon Napoleon’s defeat. Many such swords were so captured and refurbished for use throughout Europe and thousands of the same pattern were produced post war making identification of Napoleonic examples difficult or impossible. In this instance, incomplete removal of the arsenal markings makes attribution possible.</p><p><br /></p><p>.... ......... ............. ........... ........... ............ .... . ............ .. ........</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Here's one with so many marks.....my heads spinning.....</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.swordforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=81916&stc=1&d=1241112019" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>... ....... ................. ................... ............. .............. ........</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's a comment from one sword forum......</p><p><br /></p><p>" However, as someone pointed out, this style of sword was worn by men from practically every army in Europe at one time or another, so anything is possible.Are there any marks on either the sword blade& handle or on the scabbard? Most military markings have a lot of stamps, at least by the 19th century, especially on blades: proof marks, acceptance marks and often regimental/company/individual ID markings. Repros., of which there are many and some of quite good quality, tend to lack markings, the manufacturers not being prone to snap inspections by hawk eyed NCOs looking for stolen, lost or 'borrowed' weapons.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="komokwa, post: 252461, member: 301"]Normally I'd be all over this...but.....I'm not an expert....& there seem to be several models....made in different locations....some cavalry , some naval.....and many reproductions... I'd like to see some markings on the guard....or at the base of the blade. I'm not saying it isn't authentic......but there's a way to go before proving that inscription. That are several good dealers who may want a look at it.....but there seem to be many swords of this ilk on the web . From Faganarms.... [URL='https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948c.jpg?v=1440772272'] [/URL] [URL='https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948b.jpg?v=1440772272'] [IMG]https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948b_medium.jpg?v=1440772272[/IMG] [/URL] [URL='https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948d.jpg?v=1440772272'] [IMG]https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948d_medium.jpg?v=1440772272[/IMG] [/URL] [URL='https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948a.jpg?v=1440772272'] [IMG]https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948a_medium.jpg?v=1440772272[/IMG] [/URL] [URL='https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948e.jpg?v=1440772272'] [IMG]https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948e_medium.jpg?v=1440772272[/IMG] [/URL] [URL='https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948f.jpg?v=1440772272'] [IMG]https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948f_medium.jpg?v=1440772272[/IMG] [/URL] [URL='https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948g.jpg?v=1440772272'] [IMG]https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0554/1957/products/FNS1948g_medium.jpg?v=1440772272[/IMG] [/URL] Napoleonic period, model AN IX, adopted in 1812, the year of the unsuccessful invasion of Russia. One piece bronze hilt with ribbed grip. The knuckle bow with ordnance mark and cross guard with issue number. 23 1/2” wedge section blade with remnants of cursive Napoleonic arsenal markings, polished off and surcharged with [I]G M & Cie[/I]. The forte marked [I]BERNGASTELL AINE & Cie[/I]. Both markings are surcharges by makers or retailers, applied after the sword was refurbished following capture upon Napoleon’s defeat. Many such swords were so captured and refurbished for use throughout Europe and thousands of the same pattern were produced post war making identification of Napoleonic examples difficult or impossible. In this instance, incomplete removal of the arsenal markings makes attribution possible. .... ......... ............. ........... ........... ............ .... . ............ .. ........ Here's one with so many marks.....my heads spinning..... [IMG]http://www.swordforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=81916&stc=1&d=1241112019[/IMG] ... ....... ................. ................... ............. .............. ........ Here's a comment from one sword forum...... " However, as someone pointed out, this style of sword was worn by men from practically every army in Europe at one time or another, so anything is possible.Are there any marks on either the sword blade& handle or on the scabbard? Most military markings have a lot of stamps, at least by the 19th century, especially on blades: proof marks, acceptance marks and often regimental/company/individual ID markings. Repros., of which there are many and some of quite good quality, tend to lack markings, the manufacturers not being prone to snap inspections by hawk eyed NCOs looking for stolen, lost or 'borrowed' weapons.[/QUOTE]
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