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<p>[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 380476, member: 5833"]Then I don't understand this:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I can never tell a long chiton from a peplos & probably would have used the latter term for this garment because the gathered fabric is so prominent.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Roman depictions of Victoria are not noticeably different from Greek representations of Nike. I certainly can't tell them apart by the goddesses' clothing. And, despite translators sometimes preferring to use the Latin names for the characters, they are still all either Greeks or Trojans, so it is natural that the goddess would be dressed à la grecque.</p><p><br /></p><p>In Wedgwood's day, the influential translations of Homer were the ones by Alexander Pope, who used the Latin names. Fun fact to know & tell is that, based on close examination, Pope believed the Odyssey was written by a woman, who added herself to the tale in the character of</p><p>Nausicäa.</p><p><br /></p><p>Edit: Pope's translations were illustrated by John Flaxman, who early in his professional career was a modeler for Wedgwood. Another place I looked for Ulysses & Victory is among his <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/6130/6130-h/6130-h.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/6130/6130-h/6130-h.html" rel="nofollow">drawings for the Iliad</a>, but, nope. I don't know if this design is old enough to be one of his.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 380476, member: 5833"]Then I don't understand this: I can never tell a long chiton from a peplos & probably would have used the latter term for this garment because the gathered fabric is so prominent. Roman depictions of Victoria are not noticeably different from Greek representations of Nike. I certainly can't tell them apart by the goddesses' clothing. And, despite translators sometimes preferring to use the Latin names for the characters, they are still all either Greeks or Trojans, so it is natural that the goddess would be dressed à la grecque. In Wedgwood's day, the influential translations of Homer were the ones by Alexander Pope, who used the Latin names. Fun fact to know & tell is that, based on close examination, Pope believed the Odyssey was written by a woman, who added herself to the tale in the character of Nausicäa. Edit: Pope's translations were illustrated by John Flaxman, who early in his professional career was a modeler for Wedgwood. Another place I looked for Ulysses & Victory is among his [URL='https://www.gutenberg.org/files/6130/6130-h/6130-h.html']drawings for the Iliad[/URL], but, nope. I don't know if this design is old enough to be one of his.[/QUOTE]
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