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<p>[QUOTE="John Brassey, post: 3681606, member: 15277"]I need help</p><p><br /></p><p>Has solved the puzzle.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]310674[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is some of my planned eBay listing plus the mark and a link to the V&A</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O163339/jug-e-c-challinor/jug-e--c/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O163339/jug-e-c-challinor/jug-e--c/" rel="nofollow">http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O163339/jug-e-c-challinor/jug-e--c/</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>"</p><p>it is an ironstone ewer made in Fenton Staffordshire c1862 by E & C Challinor. But the decoration is not at all English. It is clearly Cantonese in style and finely hand painted in famille rose enamels. It is a stunning piece on its own but its fascinating background makes it a wonderful talking point. I have researched the jug extensively and found a smaller version in the Victoria and Albert museum collection reference 0163339. That jug appeared in the exhibition Passion for Porcelain: masterpieces of ceramics from the British Museum and the Victoria and Albert Museum catalogue p.37 and is discussed in D.S. Howard, Chinese Armorial Porcelain, p.32.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Howard suggests on that page that the jug was made in England and shipped to China for decoration as, following the TaiPing Rebellion in 1853, the kilns were not rebuilt until 1864 and it made commercial sense to temporarily decorate English ironstone in Canton for onward sale to the Australian market rather than buy the whole product in China. Alternatively Challinor may have been trying to compete with Worcester who employed a Chinese decorator Po Hing whose work turns up at auction from time to time. A leading auction house's ceramics expert suggested to me that Challinor may have used a similar Chinese immigrant as he considered it would have been too expensive to ship ironstone to China and back. (Although the Australian market makes more sense). It is not in Po Hing's hand.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The V&A takes the line that it was decorated in Canton.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Whichever the correct answer, it is highly unlikely that you will find another soon. It is a true rarity. The ewer discussed in Howard's book was sold at Sotheby's in June 1972."[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="John Brassey, post: 3681606, member: 15277"]I need help Has solved the puzzle. [ATTACH=full]310674[/ATTACH] Here is some of my planned eBay listing plus the mark and a link to the V&A [URL]http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O163339/jug-e-c-challinor/jug-e--c/[/URL] " it is an ironstone ewer made in Fenton Staffordshire c1862 by E & C Challinor. But the decoration is not at all English. It is clearly Cantonese in style and finely hand painted in famille rose enamels. It is a stunning piece on its own but its fascinating background makes it a wonderful talking point. I have researched the jug extensively and found a smaller version in the Victoria and Albert museum collection reference 0163339. That jug appeared in the exhibition Passion for Porcelain: masterpieces of ceramics from the British Museum and the Victoria and Albert Museum catalogue p.37 and is discussed in D.S. Howard, Chinese Armorial Porcelain, p.32. Howard suggests on that page that the jug was made in England and shipped to China for decoration as, following the TaiPing Rebellion in 1853, the kilns were not rebuilt until 1864 and it made commercial sense to temporarily decorate English ironstone in Canton for onward sale to the Australian market rather than buy the whole product in China. Alternatively Challinor may have been trying to compete with Worcester who employed a Chinese decorator Po Hing whose work turns up at auction from time to time. A leading auction house's ceramics expert suggested to me that Challinor may have used a similar Chinese immigrant as he considered it would have been too expensive to ship ironstone to China and back. (Although the Australian market makes more sense). It is not in Po Hing's hand. The V&A takes the line that it was decorated in Canton. Whichever the correct answer, it is highly unlikely that you will find another soon. It is a true rarity. The ewer discussed in Howard's book was sold at Sotheby's in June 1972."[/QUOTE]
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