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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;scoutshouse, post: 1498673, member: 267&quot;]Thanks for all your comments and the expertise of [USER=13464]@Northern Lights Lodge[/USER] <img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smile.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":)" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Looking around, I found a good reference site <a href="http://www.lynxlace.com/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.lynxlace.com/" rel="nofollow">lynxlace.com</a> that compares bobbin and needle lace samples (and a LOT of others!) side by side. I think I finally understand and can identify the difference... The images enlarge (edit: on their site, not here I see), making it easy to see detail.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.lynxlace.com/compare.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.lynxlace.com/compare.html" rel="nofollow">Compare page below</a></p><p><br /></p><p><i>All below are guipure or bar grounded laces.&nbsp; Needle laces have bars made of <b>buttonhole stitches</b>.&nbsp; Bobbin made guipure laces have bars made of <b>braids</b>:&nbsp; usually 4 thread braid (2 pairs), but Honiton may use more pairs.&nbsp; In the 2nd photo, you can clearly see the braids in the top piece and the buttonholed bars in the bottom piece.&nbsp; Also study the differences between the thick thread (gimp) outlining the cloth flower petals in the top piece and the thick cordonnet covered with buttonhole stitch below.&nbsp; In the 3rd photo,&nbsp; study the different buttonhole stitches used in the bottom piece to create density and textural differences; and compare this to cloth stitch and half stitch sections in the top bobbinlace piece, which serve the same purpose. Find the bobbin made cloth stitch areas (which look like woven cloth) and compare to the dense areas of the bottom piece.&nbsp; Compare the braids.&nbsp; The photo at right also shows: bobbin lace left, needle lace right.&nbsp; Compare the bars; the buttonhole stitches and braids are easy to see.</i></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.lynxlace.com/images%20small/cmpr2_small.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Top-needle,</p><p>right-bobbin,</p><p>center bottom-bobbin,</p><p>left bottom-needle</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.lynxlace.com/images%20small/c213c227_small.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Top-bobbin,</p><p>bottom-needle</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.lynxlace.com/images%20small/c178o214_small.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Top-bobbin,</p><p>bottom-needle</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.lynxlace.com/images%20small/cmpr1_small.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Left-bobbin,</p><p>right-needle</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This is what made me wonder if it was tape lace, at first...</p><p><a href="http://www.lynxlace.com/images/oth249a.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.lynxlace.com/images/oth249a.jpg" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://www.lynxlace.com/images%20small/oth249a_small.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></a></p><p>Battenberg type lace using straight machine made tapes.</p><p>Notice folds when tape changes direction.</p><p><br /></p><p>Cool![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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