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This rather large platter is another piece I inherited from Grandma. It measures 25 1/4" x 17" x 1 3/8" deep. Weight is 5 3/16ths lbs (I haven't done the conversion yet).

These are the only marks on it, and I was wondering what the pattern is, and who made it, and approximately how old it might be?

Thanks
Frank

 

German. Looks similar to WILKENS & SÖHNE :
http://www.silvercollection.it/germansilverhallmark2DUE.html#wilk

Same pattern sold back in 2013 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/german-sterling-silver-platter-1698218128

 

Thank you.

 

Agreed, Wilkens & Sohne. I had a similar piece with the same hallmarks on it about two years ago.

 

if the 2151 is the order no., it could be as early as 1866, but normally it would be the year this model was first produced.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilkens_&_Söhne
would be part 43 of a set of 64.
value on the continent outside Germany not more than silver value.

 

The number is the model number. German Wikipedia has a table of model numbers + their corresponding years of manufacture.

ETA: I see Fid has found the relevant Wiki-page!

 

another question before starting to look for a calculator. what pounds do they use in the colonies ? not Imperial I guess ?

here is a lovely site:
https://www.rapidtables.com/convert/weight/pound-to-kg.html

so it should weigh a whopping 2,353 kg. I think it should count as a weapon.
2,353 * 0,925 = 2176
appr. 0,55 $ per gram = 1197 $.

a normal coffee cup of good English making for everyday use including coffee appr. 0,33 kg. makes appr. 7 cups.

 

I agree as to the value. It's unremarkable but for it's size. It's a lovely thing, though, and a handy piece to have at the holidays. I'm not likely to be able to replace it, so I'm keeping it.

Thank you.

 

We don't commonly use metric measures here. Our system is based on the old Imperial system, so we still have 16 oz to the pound.

Or how many pints!

 

I know, the metric system is too complicated, the Imperial one is so much more natural. a foot is something I can imagine.
whenever I see oz then I think "oh no, not the old fairytale again"

 

i always find it rather amusing that the United States and Myanmar are the only countries that still officially use the Imperial system...............Yeah, the good ole USA, right up there on the cutting edge........................

 

what they show there are the order numbers that were dropped in 1927 and replaced by a four-digit model-no.. so this "weapon" here is probably after 1927, also by the script and mark.
order numbers were only used in special cases after that. probably for special orders of the "nobility" or the party.

 

Liberia. but hey, that`s American anyway.

 

Like most US Americans, I not only tend to forget that Liberia even exists, I tend to forget it that is was an US American/British "ideal" in the first place....................

 

I could wear a t-shirt with "proudly made in Liberia" ... or as mom always put it "it was always a bit hot for men there"...