Works of Alfred Boucher

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  1. Dory64

    Dory64 Well-Known Member

    Hi, does anyone know anything about the works of French sculptor Alfred Boucher? I can only find bronze and marble sculptures, but did he also work in pewter and is his work faked? I have tried googling his name with both "fakes" and "pewter" and can't find anything. Thanks in advance for your knowledge and advice.
     
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  2. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

    Is what you have marked pewter? If it just looks like pewter, perhaps it's a spelter (pot metal) casting that has lost its bronze finish. Lets see what you have.
     
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  3. Dory64

    Dory64 Well-Known Member

    Hi, it's not mine but I'm trying to decide whether to buy it. It's not marked pewter, but the seller has called it pewter. Alfred Boucher did a very similar one but in marble. It's a beautiful piece even if it's a copy/fake.
    Thanks Jacqui Boucher.jpg boucher 2.jpg
     
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  4. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

    Possibly it's from a museum gift shop.
     
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  5. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    the original is in marble and sometimes known as volubilis.
    not unusual that well-sold subjects were copied by the artist and others in other media. here it seems that the artist also altered some details for later editions, e.g. the angle of the shoulders.
    also known as le rêve - the dream.
    ceramics:
    https://www.auction.fr/_fr/lot/alfred-boucher-1850-1934-le-reve-1912-1093974
    here from his museum, different variations:
    https://www.patrimoine-histoire.fr/...ur-Seine-Musee-Paul-Dubois-Alfred-Boucher.htm
    all in all it looks okay, but the material is unclear. more pics needed, especially from the bottom.
     
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  6. San Fran Phil

    San Fran Phil Member

    Interesting to remember that once a sculpture is purchased, it can be reproduced by the owner, barring some exceptions for copyright.

    This is why it is common to find "Frederick Remington" bronzed in gift store "galleries" and places like Costco.
     
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  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    ummm, when one purchases art work....u do not purchase commercial rights to the item. ........
     
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  8. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    of course not. the other problem is the different national durations of patents. in Europe there existed small patents for 5 to 8 years that had to be prolonged; if they were not prolonged by the owner, it meant that the original company had no further interest and opened it to the free market.
    then there's the problem of the bequeathed rights that were given to foundations or kept in the family well over the official legal duration.
    and then Costco... and art and antiques ... :grumpy:
     
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  9. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I'd think it was inspired by. It has a very modern sensibility.

    Debora

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