Featured Yellow Melon Beads

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Toba, Nov 13, 2018.

  1. Toba

    Toba Active Member

    Okay, what the heck, I'll post these too. Same Indonesian trip to Kalimantan. I've been told these are melon beads from China, Qing dynasty, correct me if I'm wrong. They were purchased in Samarinda, a coastal town, in a shop that had an amazing amount of Dayak art and Chinese ceramics, which I couldn't fathom until I was told the porcelain was from shipwrecks. The beads were on two strands, the larger ones and the smaller, brighter looking ones. So... anyone know if these are indeed Qing era beads? Any info would be appreciated. Wish I could travel back in time, I would have bought a few plates too. At the time, my backpack was pretty full. IMG_20181111_163833954~3.jpg IMG_20181111_163843168~2.jpg
     
  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Yes, I would say Chinese beads, Qing dynasty.
    In the Sino-Indonesian trade, these were mainly exported to Java and often used for trade between Java and the more tribal islands. Remember, the Spice Route, a sea route stretching from the Moluccas to the Straits, and branching out to both China and India and the Middle East (and on to Europe) was just as important as the Silk Road. Kalimantan may not have been directly on the Spice Route, but still benefited from the international trade in the region.
    These are not exactly the same as yours, but similar:

    https://beadsofparadisenyc.com/coll...sian-carved-trade-glass?variant=5073505910821

    Majapahit is often used as the cover-all Indonesian term for antique.
     
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  3. Toba

    Toba Active Member

    Thanks. One site mentioned that they were popular in Irian Jaya.
     
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  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Who can blame them.:) Probably also acquired through inter-island trade.
     
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  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    nice beads....
     
  6. Silver Wolf

    Silver Wolf Well-Known Member

    becareful if you want to buy the plates,i notice some antique plates here are just poor reproduction,:angelic::angelic:
     
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  7. Toba

    Toba Active Member

    I'm sure they are reproductions if that shop is still open. Probably everything is fake. But I went almost 30 years ago. I don't remember anything being expensive. I think the beads were $10 or so. The only expensive items I bought on the entire adventure were two very old ikat weavings in Maluku.
     
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  8. Silver Wolf

    Silver Wolf Well-Known Member

    30 years ago and go travel where google maps didn't exist,thats cool! :angelic::angelic:
     
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  9. Toba

    Toba Active Member

    You don't know the half of it. I know people now who live in Kalimantan. The Apo Kayan area I visited then (which was wild jungle, people living in ling houses, so amazing) - is now gone, covered with palm oil plantations. It doesn't exist anymore.
     
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  10. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    (sigh) OTOH, you got tourist souvenirs when the tourist souvenir getting was good.
     
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  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    :(:(
     
  12. Silver Wolf

    Silver Wolf Well-Known Member

    yes,so sad,its common problem here:blackeye:
     
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  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    We actually read books in those days.:jawdrop::hilarious::hilarious:
    Us oldies still do.:pompous: I still have boxes full of old maps, books, dissertations and even magazine clippings about places, art, and cultures that interest me.
     
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  14. Silver Wolf

    Silver Wolf Well-Known Member

    i can't imagine back to those days,maybe the half of the backpack will be the map books and guides!:bookworm: when was your last time in indonesia aj?
     
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  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    1972, I think. Too long ago.:bigtears:
     
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  16. Toba

    Toba Active Member

    I've made it a point not to revisit places in Indonesia that I saw in 91. Too depressing.
     
  17. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I am certainly never going back to Bali. It was lovely in 1971, when I was there. Of course there were tourists, but there was just one 'hypermodern' hotel. When I see it on tv now, I'm appalled. But I am sure the Western artists who visited Bali ca 1900 would have been appalled if they had seen it in 1971....
     
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  18. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    & don't forget the bombing.............:(
     
  19. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Let's hope that will never happen again.
     
  20. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    ahhh...hope......i think i've run out of hope....where humans are concerned..
     
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