Yixing Teapot

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by kardinalisimo, Apr 19, 2015.

  1. desperate_fun

    desperate_fun Irregular Member

    Well this is turning into a major Suckfest.

    I am going to add my 2 cents here. You mentioned you had a "3 day policy" I hate to break it to you but "Ebay Policy" trumps whatever policies you may have.
     
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  2. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I don't know but here is what the link to the policy on cancellations says at the bottom. I was thinking that maybe if you relist you might consider BIN with Immediate Payment Required but then I guess you couldn't vet your buyer. Sorry this has happened to you :(

    "Things to keep in mind
    If you cancel a transaction, the buyer may be disappointed or feel that you didn't honor your side of the bargain. Keep in mind that:

    • If you cancel a transaction, it may be considered a defect and count against your seller performance. Learn more about seller performance standards.
    • If you cancel a transaction, the buyer can still leave you negative or neutral Feedback about the transaction.
    • When you list an item, you enter a legally binding contract to complete the transaction if the item is sold. If you cancel the transaction, there could be other negative ramifications. See the eBay User Agreement.
    • Once the cancellation is complete, you can't ask us to step in and help with the transaction, and you can't reopen the cancellation request."
     
  3. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi SIS,
    That is a line quoted by ebay but has little value. Several years ago I won an auction and the seller emailed me and said no way they were going to let this item go so cheap. I contacted ebay and sent them a copy of the email. Ebay sent me back a notice that they did not have to sell it to me since they had good reason for cancelling the sale????????? It really pi...ed me off. Ebay would not tell me what the reason was.
    greg
     
  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    When you list an item, you enter a legally binding contract to complete the transaction if the item is sold.

    That's the biggest eBay joke out there !!!
     
  5. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    That quote I posted is just the complete language and is just showing where they say you may get a defect and the buyer can still leave feedback. Cuckoo I know but there it is. The defect system is truly defective.
     
  6. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    To add my two cents... I found that if I gave a buyer a wider window to pay, they often did. I can think of many reasons why someone might not pay immediately, and I like to create a win/win situation where possible. My approach, anyway.
     
  7. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    It's not so much about when he will pay but about the lack of communication. He said " give me few days please". The please part was a good sign. But few days are gone. It would be nice if I had another reply with something like, I will pay by the end of the week or on 10th of the month or so.
     
  8. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    I hear you, kardinalisimo. Lack of communication frustrates me, too, but sometimes the reason why someone needs more time to pay is also the reason they're not communicating. Things like illness, family emergencies, unexpected overtime at work, etc. do happen.
     
  9. mymysharona43

    mymysharona43 Well-Known Member

    That's a lot of money maybe he just does need a few days although you require sooner...Hope he pays soon, problem solved....please keep us posted
     
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  10. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Please folks ....this is eBay !
    Open lines of communication...& any seller can still work with any buyer...
    BUT...I've heard every excuse in the book...and trying to work with a NPB...is like pissing into the wind.....feels good at first ......but then you just wet yourself !!
     
  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!


    " If you can't pay....DON'T BID !! "
    It written on 750,000 listings !!
     
  12. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Needing a little time to pay isn't the same as not being able to pay.

    I'm just presenting my approach, and understand if someone else wants to follow a different approach.
     
  13. mymysharona43

    mymysharona43 Well-Known Member

    Yeah but Kimokwa many many times had to file unpaid item then the buyer pays at some point before it expires thats ebay too. Is it ethical No but that is the way they set it up
    I can't say what is going to happen with them but have had many pay after filing upi
     
  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Not paying on time , isn't the same as working with the seller to arrive at an extended payment allowance .!
     
  15. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    You're right.....that does happen......but it's still a bitch having to chase down bidders who don't communicate with you.....& who leave you wondering what they're up to !
     
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  16. mymysharona43

    mymysharona43 Well-Known Member

    Yes I hate it too but it is their rules and many times it works sometimes the buyer gets a strike...when they don't it sucks and no they shouldnt bid if they can't pay but they do
     
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  17. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Thanks.
    I wish I did a second chance offer first. The current buyer was the second highest bidder last time. Now he offered $300 less but I did not want to counteroffer and take chances.
    Very fast payment but a bit of an issue again. He wants me to claim only $145. I don't want to do that but he insists. I told him there may be a problem with the insurance in case of a damage during transportation.
    I will wrap and pack really good but still want to be on the sure side. If I put only $145 on the custom form and insure for the full value, will there be an issue if a claim has to be filed later on?
    He seems like a very decent buyer but I also think that if I don't do what he wants he can create problems when he receive the item.
    Please advice.
    I think I asked before, but what insurance to use? I know most of them have a cap.
     
  18. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    I have used Ship-surance / Insure Post many times & have had no problems. That is who I insured my teapot with a last year. My biggest problem was getting the buyer to send them the required photos so that they would pay the claim. Their max coverage is $1000.00 though.

    Technically you can refuse & cancel the transaction because they have asked you to do something that is against ebay's rules. You can also stand your ground & if they cause problems later you can go to ebay to see if they will remove feedback or help in any way.
     
  19. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I know I can cancel but don't know if I'll get the right price later on. Plus, I feel like almost every Chinese buyer will want to do the same with the declared value. I can stand my ground but the buyers can always find a stupid reason to file item not as described. I usually use U-pic insurance but they also have a limit.
     
  20. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Meh, I'd declare it as whatever they want. It doesn't impact on insurance. But YMMV.
     
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