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Message:: [QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 4358512, member: 2844"]The engraving yes, the mark we don't know.It is a pre-Rodjikan mark, and as you said, the style is earlier. The date could have been engraved afterwards, not that unusual. The tray is in the Netherlands. Most Djokja silver came to the Netherlands before WW II, for obvious reasons.The date engraving is in Dutch, but the same spelling is used in Indonesian. Since the tray is in the Netherlands, it is likely to have been engraved in Dutch. It was engraved in 1951, after the Indonesian independence war, which lasted until 1949.Dutch nationals weren't exactly flavour of the month in Indonesia after 1949. Most had already fled to the Netherlands, often with only the clothes they were wearing, and glad to make it out alive. People were packed together on the ships, women and children separate from the men. The Red Cross provided extra clothing in ports along the way. It was a situation where buying monumental silver trays just before they left wasn't on their list of priorities, to put it mildly. So my guess is that the tray was engraved in the Netherlands, after it had arrived here at some earlier date. I would also guess that the earlier date was before March 1942, the Japanese invasion of Indonesia.No proof, however, just following historic circumstances. The tray could have been a rare exception of course. But back to the mark.If the Zaini mark, without the R for Rodjikan, was used after the war, there is a possibility it could have been used by someone who took over the workshop and used the mark, dropping the R.But again, we don't know, at least not now. Let's hope someone else comes across this thread in future, and will be able to tell us more.[/QUOTE]

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