Filigree tray and ???

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  1. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    Some of you may remember me posting this on the ebay boards years ago. I got some good information then, but I'm hoping with people from all over the world I might get a better idea of where it was made and what the smaller items are for.
    It isn't marked, and justsue said then it may or may not be silver. I have had it tested since and it is not sterling, but I don't know if it has any silver content(a friend took it to his jeweler and had it tested for me).

    Can anyone tell me where it was made, and what the smaller items are? I'm thinking somewhere in the Middle East and the larger of the four items are coffee cup holders.

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    Bookahtoo, Jun 12, 2019
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  2. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

    Since the little ones have handles, possibly espresso or cappuccino cup holders?
     
    sabre123, Jun 12, 2019
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  3. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    I always associated that filigree style with the middle east as well. The smaller ones could be candleholders. It may not be sterling,but it very well could be 800.
     
    johnnycb09, Jun 12, 2019
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  4. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    I agree with Johnny.
    greg
     
    gregsglass, Jun 12, 2019
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  5. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Turkish wouldn't surprise me. The metal coffee cup holders would fit; Turks like those little bitty cups of rocket fuel. The cups need some glass liners and off you'd go.
     
    evelyb30, Jun 12, 2019
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  6. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    This other thread started me thinking and having spent a few moments becoming a Google-Certified-Expert on such things (knowing nothing about them 45 minutes ago), I think you may need to look toward Portugal, Italy, and then possibly India (Karimnagar silver filigree is quite beautiful, but it seems a much more formal style of work than your piece) .

    Portugal is my current Google-Certified-Expert favorite.

    At one point I thought I had something even if it was slightly clumsy.

    Turned out to be a dollhouse set (identified by ebay seller as Portuguese).

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    Jivvy, Jun 17, 2019
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  7. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    argh... this landed at a 404 error page. FWIW, it was on an auction site for Spain.

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    Jivvy, Jun 17, 2019
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  8. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I'm not convinced on Portuguese, shapes all wrong. Funnily enough, I bought my BFF one of the supposedly doll size ones a few years back.
     
    Ownedbybear, Jun 17, 2019
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  9. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    As a Google-Certified-Expert, I cannot be dissuaded from my position, but at the same time have already pushed past the bounds of my knowledge so I must find some way to dig my heels in without actually adding new information or saying anything of importance.
     
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    Jivvy, Jun 17, 2019
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  10. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    :D

    Well I do appreciate your efforts Jivvy. You're finding more than I am.
     
    Bookahtoo, Jun 17, 2019
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  11. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Jivvy, Jun 20, 2019
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  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    :hilarious::hilarious:

    I'm with obb, not Portuguese. Portuguese filigree is more refined, it is among the top countries of quality filigree manufacturing. Filigree making is finnicky work, and even though it is hard to match the finesse of Portuguese and Javanese craftspeople, it is always amazing.

    I think it could be Turkish, with the small floral holders meant for small coffee glasses like in the last photo Jivvy posted. The bigger holders could be for glass sweets containers, like Turkish delight.
     
    Any Jewelry, Jun 21, 2019
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  13. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    Thank you anyjewelry.
     
    Bookahtoo, Jun 21, 2019
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  14. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    As do I :) :hilarious::hilarious::woot:
     
    scoutshouse, Jul 2, 2019
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  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    :D:hilarious:
     
    Any Jewelry, Jul 3, 2019
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